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Reply #195 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:14am
 
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Reply #196 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:16am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:14am:
many blessings sir bobby

we continue here with on topic factual analysis and disregard any confusions

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Dear master Light,
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Reply #197 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:11am
 
Turkish intelligence chief: "ISIS is a reality and we must stop Putin from crushing the Islamic revolution"


Turkish intelligence chief thinks west should recognize Islamic (ISIS) republic

...


Turkish intelligence chief: 'Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future'


Ankara. Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, known by the MİT acronym, has drawn a lot of attention and criticism for his controversial comments about ISIS.

Mr. Hakan Fidan, Turkish President's staunchest ally, condemned Russian military intervention in Syria, accusing Moscow of trying to 'smother' Syria's Islamist revolution and serious breach of United Nations law.

“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that no one can eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” - Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/turkish-intelligence-chief-isis-is.html
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Reply #198 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:58am
 
Like old friends ISIS militants chatting with Turkish border guards.


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Reply #199 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:01am
 
many blessings beloved beings

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Reply #200 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 3:31pm
 
Jewmerica Sanctions Syria (Again!)

Accusing
Syria of buying oil from ISIS, Adam Szubin—a
JEW
, of course—
acting
as US Treasury’s ‘Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence,’ imposed sanctions on Syrian and Russian businessman he claims are middlemen of the trade.

The individuals and entities
listed
by Szubin will have their US assets frozen and barred from doing business with US companies or individuals.

Among
those
blacklisted
are Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, a long-serving
president
of the World Chess Federation, and George Haswani, a Syrian national, and his company, Hesco Engineering and Construction.

Szubin
claims
that Haswani serves as a middleman for oil purchases by the Syrian regime from ISIS, accusing him of operating “in areas controlled by ISIS.”

How low can US Treasury Jews go? As low as hell of which they are citizens.

How about slapping sanctions on the big fish in Turkey and Israel?
View All JEW Treasury Sanctions On Syria
.

ISIS
captured
most of Syria’s oil fields in central and eastern Syria, having
seized
the country’s last oil field in September. (The fields don’t personally belong to Assad.)

If any of US Treasury’s accusations were true, Assad is in the unfortunate position of having to deal somehow with the glorified ISIS mafia extortioners for Syria’s own oil resources in order to keep military and civilian energy needs running.

The Syrian Minister of Petroleum
said
the allegations were untrue and condemned the sides which have facilitated stealing and marketing the Syrian oil.

He stressed that those sides are the same countries that made marketing this stolen oil legitimate by Resolution 186 dated April 22, 2013 which was issued by the European Union.

Contrary to Jew Szubin’s sanctions against a Syrian and Russian businessman, the biggest
conduit
of ISIS crude are independent truckers, who either sell the crude off to other middlemen or refine the oil themselves in makeshift mobile refineries.

The
bulk
of oil products are sold in local markets directly to the residents and gas stations, later sold to independent gas stations in the ISIS mafia caliphate, or into parts of Syria and Iraq that ISIS doesn’t control, or else smuggled into Turkey where it is sold in local markets.

So, yes, ISIS gasoline is flowing through the engines of its enemies and not just Syria, nor is the Syrian government facilitating it.

But don’t confuse the Jews who
run
US Treasury with facts.

THEN THERE IS TURKEY’S
deep links
with ISIS, including oil business conducted by Turkish middlemen and government officials including the Erdogan family.

There is substantial
evidence
that Bilal Erdogan, Prime Minister Erdogan’s son, is directly involved in the black market oil business with Islamic State.

“IS has big money from selling oil and are protected by the military of an entire nation (Turkey). One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly,”
said
Russian President Vladimir Putin this past Tuesday.

After Turkey refines the oil, it
goes out
on the world market, and then Turkey
uses
the proceeds to buy and ship weapons to ISIS and other anti-Assad terrorist bands.

IN ANY CASE, it’s far different to be forced to buy back your own stolen oil from occupied energy fields for the sake of your own people, and another for
US-enabled Turkey
to be in
partnership
with ISIS and
buying
low-priced stolen oil from ISIS to line their own pockets.

The purpose of US bombings of ISIS-occupied oil fields is to destroy Syria’s energy infrastructure. It’s nothing less than Jewmerica’s bizarre twist on scorched earth warfare.

And the twisting of our
Jew-ruined
country continues.

But along comes Putin and he’s
foiling
Jewmerica’s wicked plans.

Go here for the links to the red words
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1082
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Reply #203 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 4:02pm
 
Turkish president ‘sad’ about Russia plane downing


Sat Nov 28, 2015

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has expressed “sadness” over a recent move by Turkey’s military to shoot down a Russian fighter jet near the Syrian border.

Erdogan said on Saturday that he regretted the November 24 downing of the Su-24M fighter jet, which Turkish officials had accused of violating the Turkish airspace.

"We are truly saddened by this incident," Erdogan said. "We wish it hadn't happened as such, but unfortunately such a thing has happened. I hope that something like this doesn't occur again."

Russia dismisses Ankara’s claims and says the fighter jet was downed in the Syrian airspace, where the Russian air force has been carrying out combat sorties against Takfiri terrorists since September 30 upon a request by the Syrian government.

    “This incident upset us greatly. I really hope this will not happen again,” Erdogan stated.

The Turkish president had on Friday warned Russia “not to play with fire,” in reference to Moscow’s potential retaliatory moves over the incident, which may include an array of economic and military sanctions.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday that “Turkey’s reactions to the incident… reminds of the Theatre of the Absurd.”

During the Saturday address, Erdogan urged Russia to leave the door open for a mutual settlement of the dispute.

    “We shall discuss this issue and find a solution. On Monday, Paris will host the international climate summit, this could be a chance to restore our relations with Russia,” Erdogan said, adding, “Confrontation will not make anyone happy. As Russia is important for Turkey, Turkey is important for Russia. We cannot remove each other from the horizon.”

In response to the Tuesday incident, Russia has imposed restrictions on tourist travel with Turkey, while a large number of Turkish trucks are left stranded at the Russian border. The Russian Defense Ministry has also suspended all military agreements with Turkey.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry on Saturday said it is preparing travel alert for citizens willing to go to Russia. Cheesy

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/28/439483/Turkey-Erdogan-Russia-fighter-jet

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Reply #204 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 4:13pm
 
Erdogan's Twisted Logic: S-400 Must Not Shoot Down Turkish Jets Over Syria


27.11.2015

In what is a prime example of twisted logic, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Russia against using its ultra-modern S-400 air defense system to shoot down Turkish fighter jets if they violate Syrian airspace just days after Ankara brought down a Russian Su-24 bomber.

Downing a Turkish warplane over Syrian territory would qualify as aggression, Erdogan told CNN in response to a question on what would happen if a Turkish fighter jet were to stray into Syrian territory.

"This kind of an incident which may happen of course will further push us to take measures. … Of course it will be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it is a natural right of [Turkey] to protect those rights," Erdogan said.

On Tuesday, a Turkish F-16 shot down the Su-24, claiming that the aircraft violated its airspace. Russian officials and the Su-24 pilot, who survived the crash, insist that the plane did not cross into Turkey. The crew, according to the pilot, did not receive any warning prior to the attack.

The Su-24 was involved in Russia's counterterrorism efforts in Syria aimed at assisting Damascus in its fight against ISIL and other extremist groups trying to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Erdogan refused to apologize for the incident, which Russian President Vladimir Putin referred to as a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists."

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151127/1030838679/erdogan-su24-s400-syria-airs...
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Reply #205 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 4:21pm
 
Prominent Kurdish lawyer shot dead in southeast Turkey
Published time: 28 Nov, 2015 10:51

The president of the bar association in southeastern Diyarbakir province has been shot dead by unidentified gunmen while giving a public speech.

A campaigner for Kurdish rights, Tahir Elci had been criticized for challenging Turkey's official stance of calling the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) a terrorist organization.



Elci died of gunshots to the head, hospital sources confirmed.

After making comments about PKK on CNN Turk TV in October, Elci was detained. He was subsequently released and had been awaiting trial.

The killing took place while Tahir Elci was making a statement to the media. According to the state Anadolu news agency, it was Kurdish insurgents that opened fire, killing Elci, as well as a police officer, and injuring three other people, among them correspondents of the leading Turkish media organizations – the Anatolia and Dogan news agencies.

Two policemen were also killed in the attack, officials said, adding that one officer had been shot dead on the spot while another died of his injuries later in hospital.

A gun battle erupted after gunfire was opened at police from an unidentified car, Interior Minister Efkan Ala told the media. The official did not mention if anyone had been detained, Reuters reported.

The attack in which Elci was killed might be "an assassination," Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Saturday in a televised speech, Hurriyet Daily News reported. But "there are two possibilities," the PM added, saying that the other might be an accident, with the lawyer having been caught in an exchange of fire between security forces and attackers. 

A curfew was declared in the region.

Pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) described Elci's killing as a "planned assassination," Reuters reported citing HDP's statement, which added: "In the place left by Tahir Elci, thousands more Tahir Elcis will carry on the work in the struggle for law and justice."

Tahir Elci studied law in Europe and took part in many high profile cases in the Turkish courts. The lawyer was among the founding members of many human rights and non-governmental organizations.

“The moment the statement ended, the crowd was sprayed with bullets,” Reuters cited Omer Tastan, a local official from the pro-Kurdish HDP party, as saying.

“A single bullet struck Elci in the head,” Tastan said, adding that 11 people were also wounded in the incident.

Dogan News Agency recorded a video of the incident, showing a group of gunmen hiding behind the minaret of a nearby mosque close to where Elci was making his statement. When he finished speaking, the group opened fire at the lawyer and people standing beside him.

“A person ran towards Tahir Elci, fired and then started to run away,” Dogan news agency’s reporter Felat Bozarslan recalls.

The PKK demands greater autonomy for Turkey's Kurds and is classified as a terrorist organization in Turkey and the US.

After the ceasefire agreement between the PKK and Turkish security forces ended in July, hundreds of people were killed in terror acts and clashes in addition to the estimated 40,000 who have died since the Kurds started their armed struggle for autonomy in 1984.

https://www.rt.com/news/323826-turkey-kurdish-lawyer-killed/
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Reply #206 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:35pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:58am:
Like old friends ISIS militants chatting with Turkish border guards.





How do we know that they are ISIS militants & not Turkey's allies who fight to free
Syria from Assad?
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it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:01am:
many blessings beloved beings

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in these revelations we do endure upon this world ,

hold the space , hold the light !

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Reply #208 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:31pm
 
jmjcare wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 4:13pm:
Erdogan's Twisted Logic: S-400 Must Not Shoot Down Turkish Jets Over Syria


27.11.2015

In what is a prime example of twisted logic, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Russia against using its ultra-modern S-400 air defense system to shoot down Turkish fighter jets if they violate Syrian airspace just days after Ankara brought down a Russian Su-24 bomber.

Downing a Turkish warplane over Syrian territory would qualify as aggression, Erdogan told CNN in response to a question on what would happen if a Turkish fighter jet were to stray into Syrian territory.

"This kind of an incident which may happen of course will further push us to take measures. … Of course it will be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it is a natural right of [Turkey] to protect those rights," Erdogan said.

On Tuesday, a Turkish F-16 shot down the Su-24, claiming that the aircraft violated its airspace. Russian officials and the Su-24 pilot, who survived the crash, insist that the plane did not cross into Turkey. The crew, according to the pilot, did not receive any warning prior to the attack.

The Su-24 was involved in Russia's counterterrorism efforts in Syria aimed at assisting Damascus in its fight against ISIL and other extremist groups trying to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Erdogan refused to apologize for the incident, which Russian President Vladimir Putin referred to as a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists."

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151127/1030838679/erdogan-su24-s400-syria-airs...


Let Turks try to fly over Syria and we'll see what will happened.
I guess Russia will be very happy to to test S400 on Turkish jets.


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Bobby. wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:35pm:
athos wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:58am:
Like old friends ISIS militants chatting with Turkish border guards.





How do we know that they are ISIS militants & not Turkey's allies who fight to free
Syria from Assad?


What's difference between ISIS and other Muslim terrorists?.
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