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Reply #180 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:01pm
 
jmjcare wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 9:12am:
Nothing in our media about the miles of oil tankers taking oil to to Turkey.


Media Deception: You Are Not Getting The Truth

The Corporate Media And Network News Is Controlled And Works Against Us
Truth Must Spread By Word of Mouth, By We The People, Or Else It's Never Told



http://www.newsfocus.org/media_control.htm

The USA: Military Arm Of The New World Order
Is Pax Americana imposed by
the ‘Fourth Reich’?


http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/10/the-usa-military-arm-of-the-new-world-ord...



The Russians are sorting the problem out.

Our media is telling us lies.
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Reply #181 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:12pm
 
Turkey suspends Syria flights after crisis with Russia

The Turkish army has suspended flights over Syria as part of an ongoing joint military campaign with the United States against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) after it shot down a Russian jetfighter, sparking an unprecedented crisis between Ankara and Moscow.

The decision was taken following the eruption of the crisis with Russia in which a Turkish F-16 downed a Russian warplane early Nov. 24 after it allegedly violated Turkish airspace, according to diplomatic sources. 

Sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, stressed that the suspension of the Turkish jetfighters’ participation in the U.S.-led military operations against ISIL was in fact a mutual decision taken with Russia, which also halted its aerial campaigns near the Turkish border. Both parties will continue to be as careful as possible in a bid to avoid a repetition of such incidents until they re-establish dialogue channels to reduce the tension.

Turkish and Russian military officials held initial talks on the incident on Nov. 25 as the office of the Chief of General Staff invited defense and military attachés from the Russian Embassy to military headquarters to inform them about how the incident took place. However, there is still a need for high-level political meetings to let the two parties reconcile and reduce the tension.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu proposed to his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, a meeting on Dec. 3 or 4 in Belgrade on the sidelines of an international conference. However, the Russian side has not yet confirmed that the meeting will take place.

Turkey-Russia hotline established in October

Following the downing of the plane, the existence of a memorandum from October emerged calling for the establishment of a special radio channel between Turkish and Russian warplanes.

Russia’s deputy Air Force commander, Maj. Gen. Sergei Dranov, visited Ankara on Oct. 15 following consecutive airspace violations by Russian warplanes after Moscow started a massive military campaign in Syria on Sept. 30. The objective of the agreement and the establishment of the channel was to avoid potential confrontation between the two countries’ air forces, sources said.

The agreement was largely similar to one Russia agreed on with the U.S., sources said. “Russia’s message to us during the Oct. 15 talks was like: ‘We use only one channel in Syria. Contact us through this channel to send your warnings to avoid problems.’ We accepted this, and we have issued all our warnings through this channel since then. As this channel is being used by the U.S. Air Force as well, warnings Turkey has made to Syria have been recorded by both the Russian air base [in Syria] and the Americans at İncirlik base [in Adana].”

Russia’s non-response regarded as threat

Although Turkish pilots reportedly warned two Russian warplanes 10 times in five minutes while they were approaching Turkish airspace, there was no response on this special radio channel, sources said.

“Despite the agreement with Russia, the fact that both warplanes did not communicate through this channel caused Turkish pilots to profile these planes as ‘Profile: Syria aircraft,’ and consider the situation a ‘serious threat’ as part of the military rules of engagement. One of the aircraft returned to Syrian airspace but the other that insisted on heading toward Hatay was downed by the F16s,” a source said.

Air Force commander aware

A military official also said the downing of the Russian warplane occurred within the knowledge of Turkish Air Force Cmdr. Gen. Abidin Ünal and under the political instruction of Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu.

“Pilots have full authority and should follow a certain procedure in the implementation of the rules of engagement. In the ‘combat phase,’ pilots inform the base but do not seek consent. Every step pilots take in the emergency phase is followed by the relevant commanders. During the five-minute warning period, both Air Force Commander Gen. Ünal and Combat Air Force and Air Missile Defense Commander Lt. Gen. Mehmet Şanver were informed. The pilots succeeded in implementing the procedure as there was no negative command from either commander,” the official said.

November/27/2015

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-suspends-syria-flights-after-crisis-with...
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Reply #182 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 3:22pm
 
I'm not sure if Athos posted this one before, if so just ignore.

This was Published on 9 Oct 2015

"Turkey" Will Be Called Upon To Attack "Syria" ~ Imran Hosein New 2015


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Reply #184 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 3:59pm
 
Sheikh Imran Hosein:
"The Conquest of Constantinople is about to come"


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Reply #185 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 4:21pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 3:37pm:


Good alternative view.
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Reply #188 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 9:39pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:51am:
Viral:
Russian Chief General: We shall provide Syria with accurate missiles so that they can target Turkish president's bedroom


http://awdnews.com/images/144173471513920407000089_photoi.jpg

Moscow Times – The Russian chief of Staff, General Valery Gerasimov, slammed the U.S. deceitful policies in the crisis riddled Middle-East region, accusing Turkey NATO member of facilitating terrorists’ attacks on Syria, Moscow's traditional Arab ally.


"Since 2011, Mr. Obama sought to topple the democratically-elected president of Syria , for more than four years they fabricated stories to tarnish the Syrian government , all these years Obama and his henchmen—namely Turkey’s Erdoğan — tried to destabilize the region which left hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrians killed or displaced”, RIA Novosti quoted General Gerasimov as saying.

Here in Moscow we were keen on discerning how much public support there is for Erdoğan, added Gen. Gerasimov, and now we believe he is nothing but a megalomaniac despot dreaming to restore the rotten Ottoman Empire by subjugating Turkey's neighboring countries; but as it concerns the Russian Federation, the more Erdoğan supports his al-Qaeda mercenaries, the faster will come his fall.


Through the history Russians never dumped their allies, and according to orders issued by Mr. President [Putin], the best of Russian elite forces will soon put boots on the ground in Syria to annihilate Saudi and Turkish-backed terrorists," said Gen. Gerasimov, adding that Moscow will provide Syria with accurate ballistic missiles to target Erdoğan’s own bedroom, so that Turkey and Syria can get rid of the Hitler of Middle-East.


Meanwhile the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed surprise on Monday over White House’s warning to Russia about escalating the 4-year civil war in Syria. Foreign Ministry stated that the Kremlin’s Syrian policy — in particular, supplying military aid to help the Syrian army confront terrorists — had been coherent with Moscow's long-term agenda in the Middle-East.
“We have always supplied equipment to them [Syrians] for their struggle against al-Qaeda terrorists,” Maria V. Zakharova, the Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, said in an interview. “We are supporting them, we were supporting them and we will keep on doing so” in that fight.

General Gerasimov concluded his statement by saying; “We will never abandon our allies and together we will defeat Obama, this time on the Syrian soil.”


http://awdnews.com/top-news/russian-chief-general-we-shall-provide-syria-with-ac...




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Reply #189 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:11am
 
Dear master Light,

your posts are alarmist in nature.

Do not live in fear but trust in the force to guide you.

namaste
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Reply #190 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:44am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:11am:
Dear master Light,

your posts are alarmist in nature.

Do not live in fear but trust in the force to guide you.

namaste


many blessings sir bobby

do you think drama is coming or do you think its all over regarding turkey vsv russia ?

here is an animal upon your world ,that is a reflection of your affliction ..

...

now tell me , sir bobby with your head clouded in darkness by your own design ..

when will the sky fall as your global climate cult announces?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421385253

...

...

either way be at peace yet and however ,there no need to be in your fear

beloved being .. simply watch as facts unfold

as these facts are posted without your approval

or permission .. does this comfort you ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste
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Reply #191 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:52am
 
we continue here as the drama unfolds with facts

all of those with feint of heart , may initialize

ostrich pose and stance while others

observe fact and are informed

with truthful happenings

be calm and lets continue


http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/28/439527/Turkey-Syria-army-arms-supply-Dae...

Turkey arms supplies to Syria militants increased: Syrian army

Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:41PM

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In this file photo, a foreign-backed militant takes cover during clashes with the Syrian army in Azaz, northwestern Syria. (AP photo)
Syria’s military says Ankara has recently increased its supplies of weapons, ammunition and equipment to militant groups fighting against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

The Syrian army command made the announcement in a statement released on Saturday, saying that Turkey sends the arms in shipments claiming they are humanitarian aid.

The statement added that Turkey had targeted the Syrian army positions with a number of mortar shells on Friday night.

Ankara has repeatedly been accused of being one of the main supporters of the militant groups operating in Syria, with reports saying that Turkey actively trains and arms the Takfiri militants there and facilitates their safe passage into the Arab country.

Turkish opposition daily Cumhuriyet published videos in a June report implicating the Turkish Intelligence Service, also known as the MIT, in ensuring safe passage into Syria for the Takfiri Daesh terrorists.
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Reply #192 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:59am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:44am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:11am:
Dear master Light,

your posts are alarmist in nature.

Do not live in fear but trust in the force to guide you.

namaste


many blessings sir bobby

do you think drama is coming or do you think its all over regarding turkey vsv russia ?

here is an animal upon your world ,that is a reflection of your affliction ..

http://www.conversationmarketing.com/disasters/ostrich-head.jpg

now tell me , sir bobby with your head clouded in darkness by your own design ..

when will the sky fall as your global climate cult announces?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421385253

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6e/db/7f/6edb7faa233bc9f5e6bc2b4c69f46...

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/fffgggg-meme-generator...

either way be at peace yet and however ,there no need to be in your fear

beloved being .. simply watch as facts unfold

as these facts are posted without your approval

or permission .. does this comfort you ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste




Dear master Light,
there is no need for you to worry about that which is foreseen.
All is well if you trust in the force.

I find your lack of faith in the force to be disturbing.
How else can we account for what we see here?




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Reply #193 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems


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Both the American and Turkish air forces halted their strikes on Syrian territory around the time Russia deployed S-400 air defense complexes at the Khmeimim airbase, from which it stages its own incursions against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).
A spokesperson of the Combined Joint Task Force Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) told Sputnik on Friday that the absence of anti-IS coalition airstrikes “has nothing to do with the S400 deployment” in Syria.

“The fluctuation or absence of strikes in Syria reflects the ebb and flow of battle,” the spokesperson said, adding that CJTF-OIR deliver airstrikes when and where it needs to, dedicating a lot of time to researching targets to ensure maximum effect and minimizing civilian casualties.

As CJTF-OIR reported on Friday, the US-led coalition had made no sorties against targets in Syria bsince Thursday, while airstrikes against Islamic State in Iraq continued, with the coalition making 18 strikes on terrorist positions.

After the incident, Russia’s Joint Staff took the decision to enhance air defenses at the Khmeimim airbase south of the Syrian port of Latakia.

The following day, on November 25, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu announced the immediate deployment of S-400 misslies to Syria.

S-400 Triumph system missile launchers were airlifted to Syria by Antonov An-124 Ruslan super-jumbo aircraft 24 hours after the decision was announced on Wednesday.


According to open sources, the S-400 is capable of shooting down any existing aircraft, helicopter or missile traveling at speeds of up to 4.8 kilometer per second (over 17,000 km/h) The only target the system would have problems with is a nuclear warhead of intercontinental ballistic missile, which flies at speeds of up to 6-7 kilometer per second.

The S-400 engages targets at distances as far as 400 kilometers and heights of up to 27 kilometers (or higher with newer missiles). This is enough to cover at least 75 percent of Syrian territory, along with the airspaces of Lebanon, Cyprus, half of Israel and a vast part of Turkey.

The S-400’s radar has a range of 600 kilometers and is capable of discriminating even objects moving on the ground, such as cars and military vehicles.

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S-400 radar covers Syria, western regions of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, nearly all of Israel and Jordan, Egypt’s northern Sinai, a large part of the eastern Mediterranean and Turkish airspace as far as the capital Ankara.

https://www.rt.com/news/323815-syria-s-400-us-airstrikes/
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Reply #194 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:13am
 
Syrian Turkmen commander who 'killed' Russian pilot turns out to be Turkish ultranationalist


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https://www.rt.com/news/323658-turkmen-commander-turkish-ultra/
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