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Reply #150 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:12pm
 
Published on 26 Nov 2015

One of Russia's most advanced air defence systems, the S-400 Triumf, was deployed to Hmeymim Air Base in Syria on Thursday, after being carried by plane to the military facilities.





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Reply #151 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:34pm
 
Putin is blowing up the rebels Turkey financed and backs, Putin is blowing up the Caliphate oil trucks that make Bilal Erdogan rich.

Putin supports Assad who Turkey want to remove, Turkey is killing Turkish citizens yet nobody says Erdogan should go for doing the exact same as Assad.

I reckon Erdogan is desperate to get rid of the Russians from this conflict, using Nato is probably the only option for Erdogan in getting rid f the Russians.

Since Russia is the only country invited by the Syrian government they should test out these SAM's on any Turkish planes that cross into Syrian airspace.
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Reply #152 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:54pm
 
Whatever the Turks thought they could gain by this little stunt its backfiring on them spectacularly:

Russia to Cooperate With US-Led Coalition
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/11/26/world/middleeast/ap-syria-the-latest....

Russian warplanes bomb Turkish-Syrian border town: residents
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-warplanes-bomb-turkish-syrian-border-town-resident...

YPG(Kurds) try to advance on rebel areas in northern Aleppo in coordination with the Russian airforce.
https://twitter.com/Abduhark/status/669937756039196672
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #153 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:57pm
 
jmjcare wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm:
LIVE: Putin and Hollande give a joint press conference following their meeting - English Audio
Streamed live on 26 Nov 2015



Hollande is full of poo and Putin knows it!  he probably told him we're not telling Assad to go but if he does it's up to the Syrian People as the 11 Million who voted for him last election under UN observers.  Hollande didn't go to Moscow to participate in a "coalition" that's a front to the real messages taking place behind the scenes!
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Reply #154 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:01pm
 
‘Commercial scale’ oil smuggling into Turkey becomes priority target of anti-ISIS strikes


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Islamic State’s daring and impudent oil smuggling into Turkey should become a high-priority target in order to cripple the terrorist group, President Putin said, backed by French President Francois Hollande. Both agree that the source of terrorist financing must be hit first and foremost.
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Islamic State, Russian anti-terror op in Syria
Commercial-scale oil smuggling from Islamic State controlled territory into Turkey must be stopped, Putin said after meeting Hollande in Moscow.

“Vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon,” said Putin, reminding the press that the scale of the issue was discussed at the G20 summit in Antalya earlier this month, where the Russian leader demonstrated reconnaissance footage taken by Russian pilots.

READ MORE: Ankara defends ISIS, Turkish officials have financial interest in oil trade with group - PM Medvedev

The views resemble a “living oil pipe” stretched from ISIS and rebel controlled areas of Syria into Turkey, the Russian President stressed. “Day and night they are going to Turkey. Trucks always go there loaded, and back from there – empty.”
“We are talking about a commercial-scale supply of oil from the occupied Syrian territories seized by terrorists. It is from these areas [that oil comes from], and not with any others. And we can see it from the air, where these vehicles are going,” Putin said.

“We assume that the top political leadership of Turkey might not know anything about this [illegal oil trade]. Hard to believe, but it is theoretically possible,” Putin said, adding that this however does not excuse Ankara from not stopping the illegal smuggling of oil.


https://www.rt.com/news/323603-isis-oil-smuggling-turkey/
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Reply #155 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:48pm
 
Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President


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Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the current President of Turkey.
Bilal Erdogan owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/meet-man-who-funds-isis-bilal-erdogan-s...
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Reply #156 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:10pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
‘Commercial scale’ oil smuggling into Turkey becomes priority target of anti-ISIS strikes


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.11/original/5657ac08c36188d8148b45a8.jpg

Islamic State’s daring and impudent oil smuggling into Turkey should become a high-priority target in order to cripple the terrorist group, President Putin said, backed by French President Francois Hollande. Both agree that the source of terrorist financing must be hit first and foremost.
Trends
Islamic State, Russian anti-terror op in Syria
Commercial-scale oil smuggling from Islamic State controlled territory into Turkey must be stopped, Putin said after meeting Hollande in Moscow.

“Vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon,” said Putin, reminding the press that the scale of the issue was discussed at the G20 summit in Antalya earlier this month, where the Russian leader demonstrated reconnaissance footage taken by Russian pilots.

READ MORE: Ankara defends ISIS, Turkish officials have financial interest in oil trade with group - PM Medvedev

The views resemble a “living oil pipe” stretched from ISIS and rebel controlled areas of Syria into Turkey, the Russian President stressed. “Day and night they are going to Turkey. Trucks always go there loaded, and back from there – empty.”
“We are talking about a commercial-scale supply of oil from the occupied Syrian territories seized by terrorists. It is from these areas [that oil comes from], and not with any others. And we can see it from the air, where these vehicles are going,” Putin said.

“We assume that the top political leadership of Turkey might not know anything about this [illegal oil trade]. Hard to believe, but it is theoretically possible,” Putin said, adding that this however does not excuse Ankara from not stopping the illegal smuggling of oil.


https://www.rt.com/news/323603-isis-oil-smuggling-turkey/



Those dirty double crossing Turks -

buying oil to fund ISIS.
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Reply #157 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:30pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/bila...

Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the current President of Turkey.
Bilal Erdogan owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/meet-man-who-funds-isis-bilal-erdogan-s...


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Reply #158 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:41pm
 



Good video - very enlightening.

France & Russia will destroy the conveys of oil tankers -

no more cheap oil for the Turkish traitors.
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Reply #159 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:35pm
 
many blessings sir bobby

it may be how you say it to be so ,

some have mentioned



You shall not pass: Cutting-edge Russian air defense system brought to base in Syria


Published on Nov 26, 2015
Russia deploys cutting-edge S-400 air defense system to Syrian base after Su-24 downing
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Reply #160 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:45pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:35pm:
many blessings sir bobby

it may be how you say it to be so ,

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You shall not pass: Cutting-edge Russian air defense system brought to base in Syria


Published on Nov 26, 2015
Russia deploys cutting-edge S-400 air defense system to Syrian base after Su-24 downing



The Russians mean business -

they are not going to F around like the Yanks.
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Reply #161 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:49am
 
Turkish F-16 attacked Russian Su-24 without warning, both were above Syria – commander


Published time: 27 Nov, 2015 14:13

A Turkish fighter jet launched a missile at a Russian bomber on Tuesday well ahead of the Su-24 approaching the Turkish border, the chief of Russia’s Air Force said. The bomber remained on Turkish radars for 34 minutes and never received any warnings.

The attack on the Russian Su-24 bomber was intentional and had been planned in advance, Viktor Bondarev, the chief of Russia’s Air Force, announced Friday, calling the incident an “unprecedented backstab.”

The commander shared with the media previously unknown details of what happened on Tuesday.

On October 24, a pair of Russian Sukhoi Su-24 tactical bombers took off from Khmeimim airbase in Latakia at 06:15 GMT, with an assignment to carry out airstrikes in the vicinity of the settlements of Kepir, Mortlu and Zahia, all in the north of Syria. Each bomber was carrying four OFAB-250 high-explosive fragmentation bombs.

Ten minutes later, the bombers entered the range of Turkish radars and took positions in the target area, patrolling airspace at predetermined heights of 5,800 meters and 5,650 meters respectively.

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https://www.rt.com/news/323651-turkey-su24-downing-syria/

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Reply #162 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:55am
 
Turkish Jets Ambushed Russian Su-24 - Russian Air Force Commander

Turkish warplanes made an ambush for the Russian Su-24M bombers, otherwise they would not have had enough time to take off from an airbase and reach the area, Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said Friday.

Turkey had been tracking the Russian Su-24 for 34 minutes before shooting it down, Bondarev said. Turkish fighter jets were warned about Russian warplanes beforehand and waited in ambush prior to the attack.

"The radar surveillance data confirms that two F-16 fighter jets were patrolling the flight zone for an hour an 45 minutes at an altitude of 2,400 meters [some 7,800 feet], which speaks of a deliberate action and their readiness to attack from an ambush over the Turkish territory," Bondarev told reporters in Moscow.

According to Bondarev, the Russian pilots have not received any warnings from the Turkish pilots on the designated radio frequency.

The Turkish plane spent 40 seconds in the Syrian airspace, entering it for two kilometers, the commander said.

"According to radar tracking data, it was the Turkish warplane that crossed into the Syrian airspace for about 40 seconds to a depth of 2 kilometers [6,560 feet], while the Russian fighter-bomber never violated the Turkish border", he said.

According to the Syrian Air Defense data, "an object moving at a speed of 810 kmph from Turkey was registered".

The Su-24 was downed at a distance of 5,5 kilometers to the south of the Turkish border immediately after it had attacked terrorists.

"At 10.24 Moscow time the crew carried out bombing and after it the plane was shot down by an air-to-air missile launched by a Turkish Air Force F-16 that had taken off from the 8th Diyarbakir airbase on the Turkish territory."

Bondarev added that a Turkish F-16 fighter jet was guided to its intended target from the ground and launched an air-to-air missile while the Russian warplane was readying to carry out a second attack on terrorist positions.

"After approaching the Su-24M at a distance of launching a missile (5-7 kilometers), which proves that the F-16 was in the Syrian airspace, the fighter jet made a sharp descending manoeuvre to the right and disappeared from the radars."

The launch of a missile was confirmed by the crew of the second Russian Su-24.

"[The crew] observed a plume of a white smoke and reported it."

Turkey downed the Russian plane on November 24 over Syria. One of the pilots was killed by fire from the ground, the second one was rescued.

The rescue operation to save the second pilot was conducted professionally, the commander said. The survivor was being hunted down by "well-equipped groups" of militants. After the pilot had been evacuated, Russian "bombers delivered massive, crushing airstrikes" on the area, the commander elaborated.

The attack on the plane was filmed by radicals who knew where and when they could "get that exclusive footage", Bondarev added. The readiness of Turkish media to cover the accident was surprising, as the video of the missile striking the Su-24 was uploaded to YouTube by a private Turkish TV-channel just 1,5 hours after the accident.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151127/1030863563/turkish-jets-ambush-russia...
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Reply #163 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:03am
 
Turkish President Erdoğan warns Russia ‘not to play with fire’


President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has warned Russia “not to play with fire” in the wake of a crisis between Ankara and Moscow following the downing of a Russian jet by Turkey on Nov. 24 near the Syrian border.

“[Russian President Vladimir] Putin says ‘those who have double standards on terrorism are playing with fire.’ I totally agree with him,” Erdoğan said Nov. 27 in the northern province of Bayburt.

“Indeed, supporting the [Bashar] al-Assad regime in Syria, which has killed 380,000 people, is playing with fire. Striking opposition groups that have international legitimacy with the excuse of fighting against Daesh [an acronym of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, ISIL] is playing with fire. Using an incident in which Turkey’s righteousness is accepted by the whole world as an excuse to torment our citizens who were in Russia to attend a fair is playing with fire. Irresponsibly hitting trucks in the region that are there for trade or humanitarian reasons is playing with fire. We sincerely advise Russia not to play with fire,” he added.

Erdoğan also expressed his willingness to meet Putin during the upcoming climate change summit in Paris in order to find common ground and avoid a further escalation of tension.

“We are uncomfortable with efforts to take the dispute over the downed jet into other areas of relations. Let’s not allow that to happen,” he said, underlining that maintaining good relations was beneficial for both countries.

Claiming that Turkey’s shooting down of the Russian jet was not “intentional” but simply a result of an automatic enforcement of rules of engagement, Erdoğan nevertheless argued that Turkey was right to do so.

“Turkey has proved its honesty” by releasing audio recordings of the warnings issued to the Russian pilots, he added.

Erdoğan also touched on the joint press conference held by Putin and French President François Hollande on Nov. 26, describing the former’s comments as “unacceptable.” Denying allegations that Turkey has been purchasing oil from ISIL, Erdoğan said the oil trade between ISIL, Russia and the Syrian regime had been documented by the United States.

November/27/2015

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-president-erdogan-warns-russia-not-to-p...
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Reply #164 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:11am
 
Syria FM says US should study rumors Erdogan’s son is involved in oil trade with IS


According to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the United States could not have been unaware of the scale of the Islamic States’ oil industry but preferred to spare it

MOSCOW, November 27. /TASS/. US Secretary of State John Kerry should check out reports on the involvement of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s son in illegal oil trade with the Islamic State terrorist group, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said on Friday.

"I’d like to mention rumors that Erdogan’s son could be involved in illegal oil trade with the IS, although this has not been proved. If I was in Kerry’s place, I’d make an attempt to shed light on these reports," Maullem said commenting on Kerry’s statements that Damascus was buying oil from terrorists.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also touched upon the topic.

According to the Russian minister, the United States could not have been unaware of the scale of the Islamic States’ oil industry but preferred to spare it.

"The United States-led coalition had begun to fly over Iraq and Syria, without the consent from the Syrian government by the way, more than a year before our aerospace force launched an operation there," he said. "I am sure they saw this but due to some unknown reasons preferred not to interfere. Only after the Russian aerospace force had launched an operation in this area they began to deliver strikes at this criminal industry. And it looks highly improbable that it was a mere coincidence that after that our Turkish neighbors began to behave so, to put it mildly, nervously."

Lavrov said Russia hopes that the United States will support the UN Security Council resolution on sponsors of oil extraction by the Islamic State terrorist group.

"Now we have submitted a particular proposal to task the UN secretary general with summing up in two weeks all the information about who supports this illegal oil industry of the IS," Lavrov said after talks with his Syrian counterpart Walid Muallem in Moscow.

"I hope that US Secretary of State John Kerry will support us and such a resolution will be adopted," Lavrov said.

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