Setanta wrote on Nov 26
th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 26
th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 26
th, 2015 at 5:30am:
It must of been a hard decision choosing between an authoritarian nationalist and a religious nationalist. Funnily enough, neither would have time for a limp-wristed lefty like yourself.
You are kinda right there, I'm not a Putin fan and I'm not an ISIS fan either. Turkey is an ISIS fan and Putin is the lesser of two evils, Turkey shot down the Su-24, trying to defend ISIS and the oil it receives from them and to defend their comrade Turks trying to overthrow Assad, who is also prick.
To me it boils down to:
I want ISIS(or lookalikes) gone.
Ivan is doing a better job than any western coalition.
Go Ivan!
Yet Turkey is (officially) on the side of the U.S., French and the rest of the countries bombing ISIS. It has even granted the U.S permission to use its bases for the bombings. Funny way to protect ISIS.
Quote:No country shoots down another's planes for a 10-17 second trespass... Except Turkey. How often do Turkish planes transgress on other sovereign states borders and are not shot down? Dangerous game that could turn into a Turkey shoot because the west can't possibly defend that shoot down.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTIQLX3UcAQR524.png From what I've been told, U.S., French and Greek planes regularly fly in Turkish airspace, but have never been shot down. There's some animosity between Russia and Turkey for this action to be taken. The simplest explanation is that Russia targeted Turkmen, an ethnic group related to Turks, and the downing of the plane was revenge.
One thing to understand about Turks is that they are very nationalist, very proud. They aren't emasculated losers like the citizens of the West.