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Reply #90 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:55pm

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:42pm:

I have a Swiss Army Knife but I usually only use it as a can opener.

I used to carry a Leatherman in my bag. It came in handy for all sorts of things but it was confiscated at the airport a few years ago. I had forgotten it was there. I was a bit annoyed that I couldn't get it back. Sad

I had a Swiss army knife confiscated at Brisbane Airport a long time ago.
It was so small that the blade was half the length of my little finger -
it was the smallest one you could buy & it had been on my key ring for 15 years or more.

Anyway - they took it & luckily didn't charge me with terrorism.
They even said that I could have it mailed back to me if I paid $15.
I said it was an old knife & the side plastic was broken so I would
rather put the $15 towards a new one.

When I finally got another one it cost just $5 -
a cheap Chinese copy which
I have never put on my key ring again owing to the silly new laws.
It's a pain in the arse not having one.

Things would happen like I would split my finger nail & I could
use the scissors & file on that knife to make a repair to stop it splitting more.
Now I can't do that.
It was also good at work to open plastic bags & cardboard boxes.

oh well - it's all over now.

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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5818 Gender:	Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria. Reply #92 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:03pm I probably would have elected to pay $15 to get my Leatherman posted back but I was not given that option. It was a really good quality one and I have tried replacing it with cheaper ones since then but they are all rubbish and I won't spend a couple of hundred dollars on a similar replacement. Oh well
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Reply #93 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:08pm

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

I probably would have elected to pay $15 to get my Leatherman posted back but I was not given that option.

It was a really good quality one and I have tried replacing it with cheaper ones since then but they are all rubbish and I won't spend a couple of hundred dollars on a similar replacement.

Oh well Sad

Wow - they've got tougher - no post it back to you option!

I heard they have 10,000 or more of them at Melbourne Airport in a container.

They look on your key ring as they go through the X-Ray
& they find a dozen or more every day -
people have them on their key ring & forget they are there.

Imagine how much that container load is worth?

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Reply #95 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:02pm

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

They should, at least, have given me the option to put it in checked luggage.

Apparently you can't even have tweezers in your hand luggage.

My late Aunty had her lipstick & makeup cream confiscated
at an Airport in the USA.
How could a 74 year old - old lady be a threat?

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Reply #96 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:06pm

Swiss Cards are another item that can land you in trouble with the nanny-state laws.

A handy little item that you can keep in your wallet or purse, they draw the attention of airline security and you can miss a flight if you don't bin it. There could even be charges laid, even if you DO bin it:

http://mypolice.qld.gov.au/mackay/2014/11/26/notice-appear-court-knife-possessio...

There are a number of types of these cards, but the Victorinox I used to carry all the time does possess a (VERY) small, sharp blade. When one considers that the blade, plus handle, fits into a small, thin card - well, you just know that it has lethal capability. Roll Eyes

I, myself, need to buy another cane knife, a Spear & Jackson SJ-2100615:

https://www.toolmart.com.au/sj-2100615.html

For $35 it's a very handy tool around the yard. It'll drop a foot-thick banana tree in one one swipe, which is a pretty good effort if you've ever attempted to drop a banana tree.

Funnily enough, Brisbane City Council issues (or used to) their workers with a stainless steel lock-back single-edge knife with a 75mm blade. I've got one I carry at work (and to and from home).

Are these items then considered legal because one is used in a profession and the other used as a garden utensil?

Obviously you don't carry a cane knife down the street, but what about the pocket knife?

I also used to carry a Leatherman on my belt when motorcycle riding, albeit a 30 yo motorcycle. is that considered a tool or a weapon?

One remembers the old aluminium combs with the sharp handle.

Just sayin'.

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Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria.
Reply #97 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:42pm:

I have a Swiss Army Knife but I usually only use it as a can opener.

I used to carry a Leatherman in my bag. It came in handy for all sorts of things but it was confiscated at the airport a few years ago. I had forgotten it was there. I was a bit annoyed that I couldn't get it back. Sad

I had a Swiss army knife confiscated at Brisbane Airport a long time ago.
It was so small that the blade was half the length of my little finger -
it was the smallest one you could buy & it had been on my key ring for 15 years or more.

Anyway - they took it & luckily didn't charge me with terrorism.
They even said that I could have it mailed back to me if I paid $15.
I said it was an old knife & the side plastic was broken so I would
rather put the $15 towards a new one.

When I finally got another one it cost just $5 -
a cheap Chinese copy which
I have never put on my key ring again owing to the silly new laws.
It's a pain in the arse not having one.

Things would happen like I would split my finger nail & I could
use the scissors & file on that knife to make a repair to stop it splitting more.
Now I can't do that.
It was also good at work to open plastic bags & cardboard boxes.

oh well - it's all over now.

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Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria.
Reply #99 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

I probably would have elected to pay $15 to get my Leatherman posted back but I was not given that option.

It was a really good quality one and I have tried replacing it with cheaper ones since then but they are all rubbish and I won't spend a couple of hundred dollars on a similar replacement.

Oh well Sad

Wow - they've got tougher - no post it back to you option!

I heard they have 10,000 or more of them at Melbourne Airport in a container.

They look on your key ring as they go through the X-Ray
& they find a dozen or more every day -
people have them on their key ring & forget they are there.

Imagine how much that container load is worth?

They probably sell them on ebay Wink

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria. Reply #101 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:03pm Come on Master Light, tell us all your Swiss army knife story.
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Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria.
Reply #102 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:09pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:36pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:14am:

Back to Swiss Army knives.
I reckon they look nice on a key ring:

http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Knife-Images/Wenger-Teton-Chain-...

When you look at a Swiss army knife you know they are pacifists who have never fought in any wars, the soldiers must look at it and wonder if they are supposed to stab them with the nail file or maybe even the scissors or bottle opener.

As the subject is about Swiss army knives the dickheads will probably deflect to other knives to justify banning this one.

I think there should be an exemption in the law to allow the Swiss army knife to be carried in public, it's nanny state madness in banning it.

Well Baron - we live in a nanny state.
I really doubt that a Swiss army knife was ever used to deliberately cut anyone in one of those drunken hooligan street brawls.
It was more likely a kitchen knife or a flick knife.

The blade on a Swiss army knife doesn't lock in place -
so it would be almost useless in a fight & you'd probably end up cutting yourself with it.

It's more of a general purpose tool than a knife,how many parts of it are meant for cutting?

There is no reason to even compare it to kitchen or fishing/hunting knives.

They should change the law to-

people over 30 years of age should be allowed to carry a Swiss army knife.

I think by 30 people are sensible?

If you were to pick up any knife in your own home for self defence you wouldn't be considering the Swiss army knife as a choice.

It exposes what a nanny state we have become by banning this harmless tool.

Not allowing them in carry on luggage when flying, making people pack them in suitcases is all they need to restrict with this particular knife.

I wouldn't travel without one.

I did have one confiscated at an Australian airport once, I forgot it was in my cabin bag, they made a fuss too.....like I was going to hijack the plane or something.

Political correctness is why old and middle aged non muslim women are put through this when they fly, anyone who has watched the news since the 70's knows who hijacks planes.

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Re: Swiss Army knife illegal in Victoria.
Reply #103 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:38pm

Baron,
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Political correctness is why old and middle aged non muslim women are put through this when they fly,
anyone who has watched the news since the 70's knows who hijacks planes.

The terrorist have won because we all have to suffer ridiculous security checks
when it's obvious we aren't terrorists -

e.g.

hassling old ladies at the airport - come on - gimme a break -

Grandma is gunna hijack the plane & fly into the WTC. Grin

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Reply #104 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:54pm

A Swiss army knife is not a knife -

this is a knife:

http://www.chefdepot.com/kasumi2.htm

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