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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #120 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:21am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

Interesting link, Sore End.

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The
boat sank off Java
enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank
off the coast of Java,
bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

How is that meant to support your claim that "There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013", though?

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

It is interesting - both these cases of drownings occurred in INDONESIAN waters.

And when you look at the numbers between 2008 and 2013 - what do you find, turd?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #121 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:10pm

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:21am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

Interesting link, Sore End.

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The
boat sank off Java
enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank
off the coast of Java,
bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

How is that meant to support your claim that "There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013", though?

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

It is interesting - both these cases of drownings occurred in INDONESIAN waters.

And when you look at the numbers between 2008 and 2013 - what do you find, turd?

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The boat sank off Java enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

Own goal, you silly little nong. Grin

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #122 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:21am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

Interesting link, Sore End.

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The
boat sank off Java
enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank
off the coast of Java,
bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

How is that meant to support your claim that "There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013", though?

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

It is interesting - both these cases of drownings occurred in INDONESIAN waters.

And when you look at the numbers between 2008 and 2013 - what do you find, turd?

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The boat sank off Java enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

Own goal, you silly little nong. Grin

Deaths during 2008-13, estimated to be at least 1,100.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49248 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #123 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41am And most drowned AFTER the Malaysian processing centre were blocked by the Libs and Greens. Libs and Greens have blood on their hands.
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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #124 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:21am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

Interesting link, Sore End.

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The
boat sank off Java
enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank
off the coast of Java,
bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

How is that meant to support your claim that "There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013", though?

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

It is interesting - both these cases of drownings occurred in INDONESIAN waters.

And when you look at the numbers between 2008 and 2013 - what do you find, turd?

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - The boat sank off Java enroute to Australia. Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

Own goal, you silly little nong. Grin

These drowning did not occur in Australian territory, gweggowy turdery.

The name of the database, covering 15 years, doesn't change the facts, unflushable.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26837 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #125 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:46am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41am: And most drowned AFTER the Malaysian processing centre were blocked by the Libs and Greens. Libs and Greens have blood on their hands. So does the High Court of the Commonwealth of Australia then, if we go by your twisted logic.
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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #126 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52am

No, the HC just interprets the laws. It is the executive who does things but Parliament has the final say.

Libs and Greens are racist and have blood on their hands, wanted BOATS as an election issue, didn’t care about the drownings. Once that happened the boats came in bigger numbers.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps? Who will take the people we have so badly damaged? I think we should.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #127 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:00am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52am:

No, the HC just interprets the laws. It is the executive who does things but Parliament has the final say.

Libs and Greens are racist and have blood on their hands, wanted BOATS as an election issue, didn’t care about the drownings. Once that happened the boats came in bigger numbers.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps? Who will take the people we have so badly damaged? I think we should.

Wrong, the High Court has the final say.

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Reply #128 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:37am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:00am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52am:

No, the HC just interprets the laws. It is the executive who does things but Parliament has the final say.

Libs and Greens are racist and have blood on their hands, wanted BOATS as an election issue, didn’t care about the drownings. Once that happened the boats came in bigger numbers.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps? Who will take the people we have so badly damaged? I think we should.

Wrong, the High Court has the final say.

DT boy makes a statement—and gets it wrong.

The HC interprets the law, the executive can, sometimes, act to put the law into acceptable shape. The Lib and Greens wanted BOATS! as an election issue and, knowing there would be loss of life, blocked the change to laws.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #129 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 10:46am

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43am:

These drowning did not occur in Australian territory, gweggowy turdery.

The name of the database, covering 15 years, doesn't change the facts, unflushable.

Have a look at your source, Sore End. Most drownings during Labor's time in office happened outside Australian territory too.

What were you saying about turds?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #130 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:42am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:00am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52am:

No, the HC just interprets the laws. It is the executive who does things but Parliament has the final say.

Libs and Greens are racist and have blood on their hands, wanted BOATS as an election issue, didn’t care about the drownings. Once that happened the boats came in bigger numbers.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps? Who will take the people we have so badly damaged? I think we should.

Wrong, the High Court has the final say.

DT boy makes a statement—and gets it wrong.

The HC interprets the law, the executive can, sometimes, act to put the law into acceptable shape. The Lib and Greens wanted BOATS! as an election issue and, knowing there would be loss of life, blocked the change to laws.

Wrong again. The Liberals stopped the boats, not once but twice. First by Howard and then again by Abbott. If the Liberals didn't want to stop the boats, as you so wrongly claim, then why did the boats stop within three months of Abbott taking office?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #131 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:42am

Karnal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 10:46am:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43am:

These drowning did not occur in Australian territory, gweggowy turdery.

The name of the database, covering 15 years, doesn't change the facts, unflushable.

Have a look at your source, Sore End. Most drownings during Labor's time in office happened outside Australian territory too.

What were you saying about turds?

As a direct result of LABOR policy!

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Reply #132 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:42am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 10:46am:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43am:

These drowning did not occur in Australian territory, gweggowy turdery.

The name of the database, covering 15 years, doesn't change the facts, unflushable.

Have a look at your source, Sore End. Most drownings during Labor's time in office happened outside Australian territory too.

What were you saying about turds?

As a direct result of LABOR policy!

I agree. But how is it that drownings in Indonesia count for the ALP, but not the Libs?

I'm curious.

Or is it just that Sore End doesn't read his own sources?

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Reply #133 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 2:32pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:42am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 10:46am:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43am:

These drowning did not occur in Australian territory, gweggowy turdery.

The name of the database, covering 15 years, doesn't change the facts, unflushable.

Have a look at your source, Sore End. Most drownings during Labor's time in office happened outside Australian territory too.

What were you saying about turds?

As a direct result of LABOR policy!

I agree. But how is it that drownings in Indonesia count for the ALP, but not the Libs?

I'm curious.

Or is it just that Sore End doesn't read his own sources?

You deliberately omit to mention that hundreds ALSO drowned in Australian waters during Labor's term in office.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #134 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:42am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:00am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52am:

No, the HC just interprets the laws. It is the executive who does things but Parliament has the final say.

Libs and Greens are racist and have blood on their hands, wanted BOATS as an election issue, didn’t care about the drownings. Once that happened the boats came in bigger numbers.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps? Who will take the people we have so badly damaged? I think we should.

Wrong, the High Court has the final say.

DT boy makes a statement—and gets it wrong.

The HC interprets the law, the executive can, sometimes, act to put the law into acceptable shape. The Lib and Greens wanted BOATS! as an election issue and, knowing there would be loss of life, blocked the change to laws.

Wrong again. The Liberals stopped the boats, not once but twice. First by Howard and then again by Abbott. If the Liberals didn't want to stop the boats, as you so wrongly claim, then why did the boats stop within three months of Abbott taking office?

Boats are still coming. Howard didn’t stop the boats.

Now, how can we empty the concentration camps?

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