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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #90 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:45pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:40pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:37pm:

Prove it.

The onus is on maqqa to prove his claim.

He can't, because he is a liar.

Pure and simple.

Any you are an apologist for a liar.

Doesn't get much lower than that.

No its not you made the claim

100% incorrect.

Yes I know you made the claim
that maqqa was wrong

now prove your claim or be a liar

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #91 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:46pm:

http://www.minister.border.gov.au/peterdutton/2015/Pages/Two-hundred-days-withou...

You know I can prove what I say pecker

No, you can't - you are a liar. Nothing more, yet considerably less.

Your white flag has been accepted.

In future, don't tell lies - I'll be here to expose them every time you do.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #92 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 1:16am £uck you're boring!
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #93 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra... There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013. Before that, under Rudd/Gillard, hundreds drowned. After the Pacific solution, hardly any drowning between 2002 and 2008 when Rudd cancelled the solution.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 143974 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #94 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:16am Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am: http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra... There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013. Incorrect.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26837 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #95 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:17am double plus good wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 1:16am: £uck you're boring! ... and wrong every single time!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 143974 Gender:	Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless" Reply #96 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:20am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:17am: double plus good wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 1:16am: £uck you're boring! ... and wrong every single time! Incorrect.
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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #97 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:28am

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

You might want to follow that link of yours, Sore End.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

The Coalition was elected on September 7, 2013.

Both of the dates above, come after September 7.

Year nine maths, innit?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #98 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:28am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

You might want to follow that link of yours, Sore End.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

The Coalition was elected on September 7, 2013.

Both of the dates above, come after September 7.

Year nine maths, innit?

Both occurred in Indonesian waters, which Australia has zero control over. The first occurred barely two weeks after the election when Abbott had only just been sworn in. Try again, Year 9 kid.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #99 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:43am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:28am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

You might want to follow that link of yours, Sore End.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

The Coalition was elected on September 7, 2013.

Both of the dates above, come after September 7.

Year nine maths, innit?

Both occurred in Indonesian waters, which Australia has zero control over. The first occurred barely two weeks after the election when Abbott had only just been sworn in. Try again, Year 9 kid.

Nice try.

Sore End kicked an own goal.

However, I suppose he just "thinks" that children and pregnant women don't count.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

From his very own link:

"Australian Border Deaths Database".

Classic.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #100 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:47am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:28am:

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

You might want to follow that link of yours, Sore End.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

The Coalition was elected on September 7, 2013.

Both of the dates above, come after September 7.

Year nine maths, innit?

Both occurred in Indonesian waters, which Australia has zero control over. The first occurred barely two weeks after the election when Abbott had only just been sworn in. Try again, Year 9 kid.

Many, if not most, of the "Labor" drownings occurred in Indonesian waters. We’re talking about the passage to Australia.

The Abbott government went into shutdown when these drownings were reported. If it wasn’t an "on-water" issue, why would they do that?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #101 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:21am

Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:15am:

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/austra...

There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013.

Interesting link, Sore End.

"Australian Border Deaths Database"

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

How is that meant to support your claim that "There has been no drowning since the Coalition was elected in 2013", though?

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #102 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:31am

At least one asylum seeker drowned after being turned back in an orange lifeboat. One AS was killed in Manus Is concentration camp—the abbott govt withdrew 3 guards back to Australia so the PNG police couldn’t investigate that death. I call that lawless!

Of course, the RWNJs don’t give a stuff about drownings. It is all about xenophobia and racism for them in actual fact.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #103 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:34am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:31am:

At least one asylum seeker drowned after being turned back in an orange lifeboat.

From Sore End's own link - "Australian Border Deaths Database" - the tally is at least 39.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

Children and pregnant women don't count, according to Sore End.

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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #104 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:34am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:31am:

At least one asylum seeker drowned after being turned back in an orange lifeboat.

From Sore End's own link - "Australian Border Deaths Database" - the tally is at least 39.

"27-Sep-2013: 36 drowned - Lebanese, Iranian, Iraqi & Africans, reportedly mostly children under 15 who drowned because they could not swim. 8 children known to have drowned and one pregnant woman."

"9-Dec-2013: 3 drowned - Iranian and ethnic Rohingya. The boat, carrying 30 asylum seekers, sank off the coast of Java, bound for Australia. Three deaths including one two year old child."

Children and pregnant women don't count, according to Sore End.

Well yes, but they are tinted.

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