oh dear wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:


Oh, Jesus ... gregg's here as one of his socks ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 7:02am:



you know herb... there are a lot of signs if you know what to look for.....we need to give people the tools to read what is going on...for instance teachers yes even doctors...if someone say a grandparent reports something they are concerned about they too should be given  the tools to watch for and report on... as we all know people make mistakes and get reported wrongly... but thats the name of the game when we are looking at crimes that are horrific...children who are abused for months...if they are not going to school it should be reported...a child that is considered in danger should be removed no ifs or buts...and parenting must be monitored for as long as it takes...I have always said we could have volunteers to do that...call in every day we have people who ring aged people who live alone every day to make sure all is well...I think our kids are entitled to have that little bit of security at least...

sorry to hear you had that awful experience...its such an evil thing.... but nothing can excuse the killing of a child nothing.

cods wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 7:13am:


Home visits by 'the authorities' is not worth a cracker. Lies, deceit, cover-ups, 'performances' is all part of the tools of the guilty and the victims.

At one time during my childhood my mother was 6 months away from dying of malnutrition as a 'Single Mother' living with us three teenaged sons in a godforsaken part of England. She literally looked like a survivor of Auschwitz - and we boys said nothing to anybody. We suffered from the frog(s) in the billy-can syndrome - being slowly heated to boiling point ... all the while getting used to the increasingly horrible change in our mother.

Eventually a cousin came from across the country and discovered the nest of rats that we were and immediately had my mother transferred to a hospital for a long session of rehabilitation.

The village priest had once dropped by to complain to my mother that she wasn't sending we three boys to church every Sunday. She stood there at the door - wobbling and lurching with weakness and looking like a scarecrow - and this Man of God arsehole left, and never raised the alarm.

John Smith wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:


Excellent counter-thrust, John. 

mothra wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:


The little boy did eh.....?

Get real you numpty.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 7:36am:



herb thats shocking but you have to admit different times we have come a long way from then but not near far enough...look I am sure there is a lot of prevention out there we just dont talk about that bit.. but the ones that fall through the cracks.are still shameful...

lets be honest only WE have the power to change anything...we ADULTS... whingeing and blaming others doesnt change whats happening..we have to demand things happen....and I do believe we can use volunteers to call on people to make them aware they are being watched at all times...and all kids must attend school...

there are ways and means herb...for teachers to pick up the signs.... they have to have more tools and  actions they can take.....we dont always want the police or docs involved.. just plain old commonsense... and that way maybe DOCS wouldnt be overwhelmed...

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 7:50am:


People who understand pain are often the ones who become soft and caring as they age, Herb.  That exact thing was said by a retired WO in 22 SAS who had been at Goose Green with 2 Para - and his eyes show it, too.

All the 'tough guys' out there are only a slice above animals - nothing heroic there or of any value to humanity.

cods wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 8:18am:


People working for Docs are forever being found guilty of procrastination when tragedy finally brings a death or torture to the notice of the police and the courts.