I don't get why the argument always has to default to God or evolution. It show an incredibly dull bias in favour of Middle Eastern Abrahamic twaddle. The two do not have to be mutually exclusive. The test of an atheist is not whether they believe in evolution.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 2:09am:



I watched that YT today.

I liked it.    !!!

It was pretty good, imo.

All along, the interviewer, tried to explore the beliefs of those that he interacted with.

He ALLOWED THOSE PERSONS, to set/disclose the basis of their worldview and belief.

Then he simply asked questions,  ....questions which forced them to challenge [or at least re-examine] their own assumptions, about their own existence and their 'place' in this reality.

And we all make assumptions [about all kinds of things!].



But coming to the issue, of the divergent choice which we are presented with, to believe in either Evolution, Or, Creation.....

Evolution in itself [if it is 'chosen' as a 'belief'], does not posit any real answer about [our] reality.

We still do not know where all of the 'stuff' came from.

Myself, i favour Creation, and a creator.

But again, faith [belief in a creator] does not posit any real answer about [our] reality.

Because if we believe in a creator, and if the creator created all of the 'stuff' which we can see and observe, we must still ask the question; Where did the creator come from ?



The only sure thing we know [can be reasonably certain about], is that we [mankind] seem to be [individual] self-aware beings.

Unless that is, i am just imagining all of you guys [and the world that i live in  ....and the that world i believe that i live in]!!!!!!

Perhaps you guys are all just a part of my fantasy/illusion, and part of the delusion that i have,    .....the belief, that i am a self-aware being.





ANYWAY;

For me, this -------- >,  is the only thing that makes any sense, for me, of my existence 'here'.

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We, are 'seeds' [the 'seeds' which have been 'sown', within this 'construct'/creation/planet],     ...and, that we are the 'fish' that will be drawn up in the 'net' of the 'harvest'.

And;

We, are the harvest.

Are we a 'fruit' of any worth ?



QUESTION;
Doesn't your existence here, 'make any sense' to you ???


Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49  So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50  And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Luke 3:8
Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.




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Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.



We are all free, to believe whatever we will.




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Deuteronomy 30:18
I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
19  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20  That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

Yadda: QUESTION;
Doesn't your existence here, 'make any sense' to you ???

Yes. Though trying to explain that to another person is futile. That is where the proselytizing religions fail. They state that everyone is or should be of one mind.

I have never seen any explanation or description of "God" that was not even more boring than football. Creator, father, judge, omnipresent one. All petty human concepts and needs.

No person can see into the mind of another. So when one person says "God," you can say "of course; more tea vicar?" But really, no one knows what the bugger anyone else is talking about.

Yadda, I occasionally read your comments. I don't read your quotes from the Bible. Ancient scripture is of no interest to me. Perhaps others think it worthwhile.