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Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je
Sep 4^th, 2015 at 4:04pm

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Indonesia's defense minister said that the country would buy Russian-made Su-35 jets following negotiations between the two countries.

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150903/1026559663/indonesia-su35-purchase-russia.h...

One squadron? Is this a budget issue or for OPFOR or for improving the capabilities of sensor designs for the K-FX?

Because Indonesia just bought highly advanced US AH-64E choppers and is jointly developing secret technology with ROK in regards to aviation.

And is definitely not a client state of Russia or the PRC.

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 39532	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:16pm It's a budget issue. The Indonesia airforce is the poor man of the quadriumverate of the Indonesian forces.
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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:27pm Don't we give these Indonesian maggots aid. They sure have enough to buy jet fighters. Dumb leftards.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17472 Gender:	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 6:46pm We should cut our foreign aid to Indonesia,they say our money builds schools while their money builds the military. There is only 1 party that has it right for foreign aid,why are we borrowing from China to give money away? www.ldp.org.au/index.php/policies/1265-foreign-aid
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Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je
Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

We should cut our foreign aid to Indonesia,they say our money builds schools while their money builds the military.

There is only 1 party that has it right for foreign aid,why are we borrowing from China to give money away?

www.ldp.org.au/index.php/policies/1265-foreign-aid

Our aid money builds schools which teach basically that Australia is a bonza place, Baron. I'm sure you'd love to see those schools replaced with Madrassi which teach Australia is not a bonza place and should be attacked and destroyed?

Either we pay for them or we allow the radicals to pay for them. Choice is yours. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je
Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

We should cut our foreign aid to Indonesia,they say our money builds schools while their money builds the military.

There is only 1 party that has it right for foreign aid,why are we borrowing from China to give money away?

www.ldp.org.au/index.php/policies/1265-foreign-aid

Our aid money builds schools which teach basically that Australia is a bonza place, Baron. I'm sure you'd love to see those schools replaced with Madrassi which teach Australia is not a bonza place and should be attacked and destroyed?

Either we pay for them or we allow the radicals to pay for them. Choice is yours. Roll Eyes

Our aid money builds schools which teach basically that Australia is a bonza place, Baron. Grin

The Indonesian media hate Australia's guts. Didn't they have some stupid money drive recently to throw it back at Australia?

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Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je
Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2015 at 12:41am

double plus good wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

We should cut our foreign aid to Indonesia,they say our money builds schools while their money builds the military.

There is only 1 party that has it right for foreign aid,why are we borrowing from China to give money away?

www.ldp.org.au/index.php/policies/1265-foreign-aid

Our aid money builds schools which teach basically that Australia is a bonza place, Baron. I'm sure you'd love to see those schools replaced with Madrassi which teach Australia is not a bonza place and should be attacked and destroyed?

Either we pay for them or we allow the radicals to pay for them. Choice is yours. Roll Eyes

Our aid money builds schools which teach basically that Australia is a bonza place, Baron. Grin

The Indonesian media hate Australia's guts. Didn't they have some stupid money drive recently to throw it back at Australia?

The Indonesians are secular. There are extremists.

The government is US aligned. The US government chastised Australia for encouraging poor relations with Indonesia and just sold them highly advanced military equipment and approved their participation in advanced military aircraft to counter China and North Korea.

They hate Australia for good reason. So do lots of countries at the moment.

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #7 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 4:12pm http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1444121937
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Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je
Reply #8 - Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:18am

I would hate to be the pilot 'viffing' while in front of guns..... easily countered... the wing man takes him out when he loses velocity.... and to avoid a missile his detection systems would need to be immaculate.....

I'd say the SU-35 is a shot duck in a real gun fight against well-trained opponents acting as a team.

"maneuverabilty at low speed" - OK - good luck with that..... nobody will be tangling with you at low speed.... low speed leaves you within a fragmentation envelope for a long time.. jink all you like at low speed.. the frags from a missile will still hit you and while you are unstable that is a catastrophe waiting to happen...... one system out and out of control....

ADDS:- Christ - at low speed a chopper armed with missiles could do you in..... the SU27, from which the SU35 is derived, was a ground attack aircraft derived from the SU7 - down low and hard you take your chances with everything including a peasant with a BB gun.....

With Indo pilots...oh, well.....

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1339 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:07pm Money that Indonesia doesn't have to spend on schools can be put to use exterminating those annoying Papuan chaps. More aid for Indonesia means more dead Papuans, which Australian politicians, as a class, appear to consider a good thing.
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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2178 Gender:	Re: Indonesia Decides to Buy Advanced Russian Su-35 Je Reply #10 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 3:57pm Indonesia has an economy roughly 70% the size of Australia's, with about ten times the population. Growth is about 6% to Australia's 2-3%. Australia's debt to GDP is running around 33% compared to around 23% for Indonesia. Still, Australia is in a better position to buy military aircraft.
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