Pho Huc wrote on Sep 10
th, 2015 at 8:05pm:
Without gun registration licensing becomes much less effective.
I cannot argue with you about how many guns are illegally imported into Australia, because no-one on earth knows the true number.
I don't see how it would have any relevance unless the guns were coming in such huge numbers that the existing gun stocks became irrelevant, and this is not the case.
I will say that there different opinions on the numbers. I used this page as a reference as it collates both police and ACC crime data.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-26/source-of-illicit-guns-in-australia/6483762
Canada and New Zealand said licensing was effective and gun registration was costly and ineffective which is why they abolished it.
Licnesing ie controlling who can have guns is what Canada and New Zealand focus on, their gun crime rates have continued to fall despite abolishing registration.
We don't know how many guns are illegally imported,the pump action shotgun used in the Lindt siege had no record of being imported into Australia so you cannot say it wasn't handed in when it could have been an illegal import.
Your ABC link shows fact check are idiot lefties, does the ABC article have the NSW police saying illegal importation and not theft is driving gun crime, they back 100% what senator McKenzie said.
They cite the AIC and ACC studies as proof of their idiocy and cherry picking, those studies had no data on illegal importation it was never a part of the study yet it doesn't stop the idiotic hoplophobic greens and ABC fact check from misusing a study on theft to claim it is a bigger problem than illegal importation.
Here is the author of the much cited study Dr Samantha Bricknell
-In the first 30 seconds Dr Bricknell asks her submitted gun theft figures from Tas be changed from 212 to 62
-Around 13min 30 she said 70% of the recovered guns were of unknown origin and people should be careful in what conclusions they draw from such a large unkown
-Around 16min 20 sec to 17min 20 the AIC confirm they never looked at illegal importation and they had no data on that
-From 31 minutes to finish they confirm idiotic hoplophbes are misusing a study on theft and recovered guns to make claims this is greater than illegal importation which they never looked at.
-Greens senator penny wright left the room around 11min and never heard this,she persists in telling lies and making herself look stupid.
The people who want to cite AIC and ACC studies should listen to the author of it before claiming those studies have anything to do with illegal importation.
Winchester and Beretta gave evidence to the senate inquiry they help track unregistered guns from their origin.