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Reply #30 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:02pm

"In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked."

Legal gun owners.

This could happen in Australia, or anywhere where guns are in the hands of the general population.

Some people care about innocent children (and adults) - some don't.

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Reply #31 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

"In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked."

Legal gun owners.

This could happen in Australia, or anywhere where guns are in the hands of the general population.

Some people care about innocent children (and adults) - some don't.

That would be people like you.

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Reply #32 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

"In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked."

Legal gun owners.

This could happen in Australia, or anywhere where guns are in the hands of the general population.

Some people care about innocent children (and adults) - some don't.

My god you are so gay, it makes me weep.

What a load of horse sh1t, there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia, you have used nothing more than emotion and hysteria and expected everyone else to wonder at the size of your Mangina. Grin

Run away little girl you are too pathetic for the real world

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Reply #33 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia,

Australian facts:

"In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30" Link

Innocent people, accidentally killed by guns.

I care about these people - you don't.

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Reply #34 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:21pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

The US stats are an example of what can and does happen in the US.

The US stats are proof of what happens in the US.

However, they also serve as an example of what could happen in any other country where guns are in the hands of the general population.

I care about the death of innocent children. You don't.

Fkkk you must really hate cars and swimming pools, or aren't those kids innocent enough for you.

Cars are not designed to be a weapon.

Swimming pools are not designed to be a weapon.

Any other examples you'd like me to shoot down (pardon the pun)?

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Reply #35 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia,

Australian facts:

"In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30" Link

Innocent people, accidentally killed by guns.

I care about these people - you don't.

First it was about the children now it is anyone, well 3 people to be exact, wasn't any of the three the right age.

You must really lose your sh1t when you read about road accidents and workplace accident stats, or is that a more acceptable way to kill innocent people.

Like I said and will continue to say, you are pathetic.

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Reply #36 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

The US stats are an example of what can and does happen in the US.

The US stats are proof of what happens in the US.

However, they also serve as an example of what could happen in any other country where guns are in the hands of the general population.

I care about the death of innocent children. You don't.

Fkkk you must really hate cars and swimming pools, or aren't those kids innocent enough for you.

Cars are not designed to be a weapon.

Swimming pools are not designed to be a weapon.

Any other examples you'd like me to shoot down (pardon the pun)?

So those deaths are ok are they?

And how do know that in the hundreds and thousands of 'innocent' deaths not in one occasion that a car or the pool was used as a weapon?

Your gay arguments are no match for my or anyone else's logic

In the right hands everything is a weapon

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Reply #37 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:35pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

First it was about the children now it is anyone, well 3 people to be exact, wasn't any of the three the right age.

One accidental death is one too many (there's a lot more than three in that list I provided).

I care about the innocent people dying as a result of gun accidents - you don't.

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Reply #38 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:38pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

And how do know that in the hundreds and thousands of 'innocent' deaths not in one occasion that a car or the pool was used as a weapon?

Anything can be used as a weapon.

As I said: "Cars are not designed to be a weapon; Swimming pools are not designed to be a weapon."

I care about people being accidentally killed by guns - you don't.

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Reply #39 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:43pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

You must really lose your sh1t when you read about road accidents and workplace accident stats

Cars are not designed to be weapons.

Workplace accidents are not caused by tools, for example, which are designed to be weapons.

I care about innocent people accidentally killed by guns - you don't.

Reducing the number of guns (i.e. things designed primarily as a weapon) in society, reduces the risk.

I'm all about minimising risk - you're about playing with your toys.

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Reply #40 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

And how do know that in the hundreds and thousands of 'innocent' deaths not in one occasion that a car or the pool was used as a weapon?

Anything can be used as a weapon.

As I said: "Cars are not designed to be a weapon; Swimming pools are not designed to be a weapon."

I care about people being accidentally killed by guns - you don't.

Now you're adding/engineering your statements to suit your illogical opinions.

First "anybody killed by guns"

Then it was "children killed by guns"

Now it's "accidentally killed by guns"

Keep going, you may get it right. I won't hold my breath though.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies Reply #41 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:50pm "About two-thirds of these unintended deaths — 65 percent — took place in a home or vehicle that belonged to the victim’s family, most often with guns that were legally owned but not secured." Link And the same thing could happen in Australia. Less guns will reduce the risk.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131547 Gender:	Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies Reply #42 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:53pm "Two-thirds of incidents involved legally owned guns, whereas 16 percent of incidents involved unlawfully owned guns. (In another 17 percent of cases, the legality of gun ownership could not be confirmed.)"
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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #43 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

"In Asheboro, North Carolina, a 26-year-old mother was cleaning her home when she heard a gunshot. Rushing into the living room, she discovered that her three-year-old son had accidentally shot her boyfriend’s three-year-old daughter with a .22-caliber rifle the parents had left in the room, loaded and unlocked."

Legal gun owners.

This could happen in Australia, or anywhere where guns are in the hands of the general population.

Some people care about innocent children (and adults) - some don't.

It's against the law to leave a loaded gun where kids can access it in the USA, the woman who was shot by her son in Florida was charged.

If a kid got his hands on a loaded gun in Australia then safe storage regulations are not being followed and the registered owner will be charged, of course criminals don't follow safe storage regs with their illegal guns in Australia, how many criminals own gun safes?

Far more kids die by drowning or transport accidents in the USA yet hoplophobes like little pecca don't care about them.

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Reply #44 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

"Two-thirds of incidents involved legally owned guns, whereas 16 percent of incidents involved unlawfully owned guns. (In another 17 percent of cases, the legality of gun ownership could not be confirmed.)"

Of course the hoplophobes with their irrational fears always bring up the USA when the topic is Australia.

Police minister Troy Grant said greater than 97% of all gun crimes in NSW are done with unregistered guns held by unlicensed people, he also took a swipe at the fearmongering by Green senator David Shoebridge.

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