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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #15 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

Feel free to not use any hysterical irrational reasons for your answer. It's gonna be tough for you I know.

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Reply #16 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:52am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

"Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year."

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Unlike you, I care about innocent children being killed.

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Reply #17 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

"Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year."

Innocents Lost

Unlike you, I care about innocent children being killed.

So you believe that a law enacted in Australia that does nothing to prevent gun crime, but removes guns from the general population in Australia is good, because it prevents children being shot in the United States of America.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #18 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:19am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

"Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year."

Innocents Lost

Unlike you, I care about innocent children being killed.

So you believe that a law enacted in Australia that does nothing to prevent gun crime, but removes guns from the general population in Australia is good, because it prevents children being shot in the United States of America.

Less guns in Australia will reduce the risk of innocent children being accidentally shot in Australia.

The US stats were used as an example of what can happen.

If you need further clarification, just let me know.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #19 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:25am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

Less guns in any society (in any country), will mean a reduced chance of children being accidentally shot and killed.

"Three-year-old Alabama boy fatally shoots his nine-year-old sister in the head with pistol he found on grandfather's bedroom nightstand" Link

The same thing can happen, in any country where guns are available to the general public.

I care about children. You obviously don't.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #20 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

"Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year."

Innocents Lost

Unlike you, I care about innocent children being killed.

So you believe that a law enacted in Australia that does nothing to prevent gun crime, but removes guns from the general population in Australia is good, because it prevents children being shot in the United States of America.

Less guns in Australia will reduce the risk of innocent children being accidentally shot in Australia.

The US stats were used as an example of what can happen.

If you need further clarification, just let me know.

The US stats are an example of what can and does happen in the US, please supply any actual evidence to support this or any other claim about this country and its gun owners, you dolt.

I did mention to not make any hysterical claims when trying to explain your stupid comment, didn't I?

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #21 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:39am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

The US stats are an example of what can and does happen in the US.

The US stats are proof of what happens in the US.

However, they also serve as an example of what could happen in any other country where guns are in the hands of the general population.

I care about the death of innocent children. You don't.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #22 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #23 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

The US stats are an example of what can and does happen in the US.

The US stats are proof of what happens in the US.

However, they also serve as an example of what could happen in any other country where guns are in the hands of the general population.

I care about the death of innocent children. You don't.

Fkkk you must really hate cars and swimming pools, or aren't those kids innocent enough for you.

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Reply #24 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

Of the 3 people from 2 years ago how many of those 3 were children?

Because it is really about the children isn't it?

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #25 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Taking guns from honest law abiding citizens does not remove gun crime.

No.

But it does remove guns from the general population, and that's a good thing.

In what way exactly?

"Federal data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that between 2007 and 2011, an average of 62 children age 14 and under were accidentally shot and killed each year."

Innocents Lost

Unlike you, I care about innocent children being killed.

Bulldust!

You care about winning an argument with your illogical lack of reason, you couldn't give a cr@p about anybody but yourself.

Legal gun ownership very rarely causes a problem, and when it does its by accident or theft, the latter of which would make the thief in possession of an ILLEGAL gun.

Illegal guns will continue to be the problem NOT LEGAL gun ownership.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #26 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:57am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

Of the 3 people from 2 years ago how many of those 3 were children?

Because it is really about the children isn't it?

I'm concerned about any innocent person killed by a gun.

You: not so much.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #27 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:58am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

Of the 3 people from 2 years ago how many of those 3 were children?

Because it is really about the children isn't it?

I'm concerned about myself only.

Fixed.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #28 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:59am

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

Of the 3 people from 2 years ago how many of those 3 were children?

Because it is really about the children isn't it?

I'm concerned about myself only.

Fixed.

Reported.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #29 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:59am:

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30 Link

Innocent people dying, because of accidents with guns.

Anything that will minimise the risk is a good thing.

I care about innocent people dying. You don't.

Of the 3 people from 2 years ago how many of those 3 were children?

Because it is really about the children isn't it?

I'm concerned about myself only.

Fixed.

Reported.

Whoopee!!!

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