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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #45 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia,

Australian facts:

"In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30" Link

Innocent people, accidentally killed by guns.

I care about these people - you don't.

The numbers show the firearm safety course which became mandatory in 1996 does nothing to stop accidents.

We had less accidental shootings before our 1996 gun laws.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #46 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia,

Australian facts:

"In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30" Link

Innocent people, accidentally killed by guns.

I care about these people - you don't.

The numbers show the firearm safety course which became mandatory in 1996 does nothing to stop accidents.

We had less accidental shootings before our 1996 gun laws.

So, let's dramatically reduce the number of guns.

Less guns = less risk of accidental deaths by guns.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #47 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Far more kids die by drowning or transport accidents in the USA yet hoplophobes like little pecca don't care about them.

I care about all innocent people dying.

However, vehicles are not designed as weapons.

And, swimming pools are not designed as weapons.

Moreover, I've seen no threads in here about children dying in transport accidents, or drowning accidents.

If you'd like to start one, though, I'm more than willing to post a reply or two.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #48 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

there is no factual foundation for anything you have said about Australia,

Australian facts:

"In Australia, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3
2011: 7
2010: 11
2009: 7
2008: 5
2007: 4
2006: 8
2005: 50
2004: 54
2003: 40
2002: 30
2001: 18
2000: 45
1999: 28
1998: 22
1997: 19
1996: 30
1995: 15
1994: 20
1993: 18
1992: 24
1991: 29
1990: 30
1989: 19
1988: 30" Link

Innocent people, accidentally killed by guns.

I care about these people - you don't.

The numbers show the firearm safety course which became mandatory in 1996 does nothing to stop accidents.

We had less accidental shootings before our 1996 gun laws.

So, let's dramatically reduce the number of guns.

Less guns = less risk of accidental deaths by guns.

Gun numbers have increased to their highest ever levels in Australia which has resulted in less accidental deaths by guns.

It shows your statement is bullshit.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #49 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Far more kids die by drowning or transport accidents in the USA yet hoplophobes like little pecca don't care about them.

I care about all innocent people dying.

Then why do you stick up for Islam which has the death penalty for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuals and witchcraft.

Little pecca is a hypocrite.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #50 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

You must really lose your sh1t when you read about road accidents and workplace accident stats

Cars are not designed to be weapons.

Workplace accidents are not caused by tools, for example, which are designed to be weapons.

I care about innocent people accidentally killed by guns - you don't.

Reducing the number of guns (i.e. things designed primarily as a weapon) in society, reduces the risk.

I'm all about minimising risk - you're about playing with your toys.

You are about trying to assuage your fear of the boogeyman, a hysterical paralysing fear, nothing more.

Dead is dead, there is not good dead and bad dead, so stop crapping on like a little girl, trying to get her dolly back.

You are once again clueless, much like you trying correct me about being in uniform on ANZAC day, jeez you made yourself look like a total fkkwit that day. Grin

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Reply #51 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:51pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

You must really lose your sh1t when you read about road accidents and workplace accident stats

Cars are not designed to be weapons.

Workplace accidents are not caused by tools, for example, which are designed to be weapons.

I care about innocent people accidentally killed by guns - you don't.

Reducing the number of guns (i.e. things designed primarily as a weapon) in society, reduces the risk.

I'm all about minimising risk - you're about playing with your toys.

You are about trying to assuage your fear of the boogeyman, a hysterical paralysing fear, nothing more.

Dead is dead, there is not good dead and bad dead, so stop crapping on like a little girl, trying to get her dolly back.

You are once again clueless, much like you trying correct me about being in uniform on ANZAC day, jeez you made yourself look like a total fkkwit that day. Grin

Nothing changes, except he's an even bigger one now.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies Reply #52 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:58pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Dead is dead, there is not good dead and bad dead. Correct, and nobody here has said anything to the contrary. However, reducing the number of guns in the community lessens the risk of being accidentally killed as a result of a gunshot wound.
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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #53 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:59pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

Gun numbers have increased to their highest ever levels in Australia which has resulted in less accidental deaths by guns.

It shows your statement is bullshit.

My statement is 100% correct.

Less guns = less risk of accidental deaths by guns.

If there are zero guns in Australia, there is zero chance of accidentally being killed by a gun in Australia.

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Reply #54 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 4:07pm

Hysterical rantings.

Do you know how many children drown each year?
Yet pools are not banned, nor is water.

Do you know how many children die of poisoning?
Yet poisons are still available and not banned.

Do you know how many children are electrocuted?
Yet electricity is not banned and is still available.

Do you know how many children are killed by motor vehicles?
Yet cars are not banned and are freely available.

Guns are not the problem, the use or abuse is the problem.
Teach people to use them properly, to respect them and to keep them out of the hands of criminals or mentally ill.

PS
I do not like guns, never had one, never will.
But I don't drink or smoke either.

But I respect peoples right to choice, anything less is no longer a democracy its a dictarorship.

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Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies
Reply #55 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 3:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Far more kids die by drowning or transport accidents in the USA yet hoplophobes like little pecca don't care about them.

I care about all innocent people dying.

Then why do you stick up for Islam which has the death penalty for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuals and witchcraft.

Little pecca is a hypocrite.

No greater than you. Why do you ignore all the victims of guns in Australia? Only yours and the interpretation peddled by the extremists promotes the death penality for all those issues. Funny bed fellows you keep there! Grin

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Reply #56 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 3:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Far more kids die by drowning or transport accidents in the USA yet hoplophobes like little pecca don't care about them.

I care about all innocent people dying.

Then why do you stick up for Islam which has the death penalty for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuals and witchcraft.

I don't support the death penalty, under any circumstances.

You may have mistaken me for someone else.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies Reply #57 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 10:39pm Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 4:07pm: keep them out of the hands of criminals or mentally ill. How would you propose to achieve this apparently impossible task?
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Gun Control Australia caught telling lies Reply #58 - Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:41pm ian wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 10:39pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 4:07pm: keep them out of the hands of criminals or mentally ill. How would you propose to achieve this apparently impossible task? Penalise their use? Make them single-user only? Destroy them all?
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