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Reply #45 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 3:47pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 3:03pm:
|dev|null wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 12th, 2015 at 10:29pm:
"Different firearms Baron.  Different firearms.  No semi-automatic guns = no gun massacres.  Funny that.    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin"

Funny that, as some bolt action rifles can be fired faster than some semi-automatics, its the rate at which the gun can be fired that matters not the type of mechanism.

I recently was timed firing 15 aimed shots (that all hit the target) in one minute from a single shot rifle; mind you, I had been practicing.


And how often have gun nuts who commit massacres spent the time and effort to practice?   They use semi-automatic rifles for a reason, cause they are light, easy and affordable.

Care to point out a gun massacre committed in Australia in the last ~20 years which was committed with a bolt action rifle?    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


Have there been any mass shootings which didn't use self loaders?


Only one, I'm aware of.  Charles Joseph Whitman from the land of the free...   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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Reply #46 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 4:02pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 3:03pm:
|dev|null wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 12th, 2015 at 10:29pm:
"Different firearms Baron.  Different firearms.  No semi-automatic guns = no gun massacres.  Funny that.    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin"

Funny that, as some bolt action rifles can be fired faster than some semi-automatics, its the rate at which the gun can be fired that matters not the type of mechanism.

I recently was timed firing 15 aimed shots (that all hit the target) in one minute from a single shot rifle; mind you, I had been practicing.


And how often have gun nuts who commit massacres spent the time and effort to practice?   They use semi-automatic rifles for a reason, cause they are light, easy and affordable.

Care to point out a gun massacre committed in Australia in the last ~20 years which was committed with a bolt action rifle?    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


Have there been any mass shootings which didn't use self loaders?


New Zealand has had no mass shootings since 1996 despite having a similar frequency of mass shootings to Australia before that.

New Zealand allows hunters to have semi autos with sound moderators (silencers) why have they had no mass shootings if it's the gun as idiotic hoplophobes claim?
www.guncity.com/firearms/all-firearms/centrefire/semi-auto/223
www.guncity.com/firearms/all-firearms/ec-category-lic./ecategory/308

We had 8 people stabbed to death in Cairns and the worst mass murderer in NSW lit a fire, the hoplophobes will say a slow horrible death by stab wound or fire is better than being shot to death.
If a nutjob kills me I hope it's quick not a slow agonising death.
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Reply #47 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 4:38pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 4:02pm:
If a nutjob kills me I hope it's quick not a slow agonising death.


So do we Baron!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #48 - Aug 22nd, 2015 at 3:41pm
 
Handgun sales spike in advance of Maine permit change



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   NRA-ILA  http://bit.ly/1NBh48O Quote:
AUBURN — An upcoming change in Maine law that allows adults to carry a concealed handgun without a permit is triggering a spike in gun sales at some local shops.

John Reid, owner of J.T. Reid's Gun Shop in Auburn, said Tuesday that sales of handguns are up and he's ordered more firearms to keep up with the demand.

Reid said much of his new business is coming in response to a law that goes into effect in October. It essentially does away with the requirement in Maine that those carrying a concealed handgun first obtain a permit from police.

"People are showing a lot of interest in it, and I've ordered another 100 handguns to add to the inventory," Reid said. He said weapons popular for personal defense, such as 9 mm and .38-caliber pistols, were the top sellers.

Maine's recent law shift aligns the state with a few others in allowing so-called "constitutional" or "permitless" carry for adults who are not otherwise prohibited by state and federal law from possessing a firearm............CONTINUED



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No
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the government for the Right to Carry a Pistol or Rifle for Self-Defense in Maine.
All they need is their 2nd Amendment, pass a background check, & within 48 hours or less they're good to go!


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Reply #49 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 1:29pm
 
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A couple of new studies reveal the gun control hypesters worst nightmare..more people buying firearms,while firearm related homicides and suicides are steadily diminishing.

According to the Bureau of Justice statistics,US gun related homicides dropped 39% over the course of 18 years,from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011.

The march Pew study,also found a dramatic drop in gun crime over the past 2 decades.Their accounting showed a 49% drop in homicide rate.

www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-...



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Reply #50 - Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
Walmart Discontinues Selling America’s Most Popular Rifle  --  The AR15


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Americans acquiring the most popular rifle in the country will now be doing so only from traditional firearm dealerships and full-service sporting goods stores, which— as it happens —typically have the most extensive selections of firearms and accessories from which to choose, and employees who support the Second Amendment and who can answer firearm questions with expertise.

Walmart said this week that it will no longer sell AR-15s and other “semi-automatic weapons,” and from now on will sell only the kinds of firearms used “by hunters and people who shoot sporting clays and things like that.” The Associated Press reports that Walmart claims its decision wasn’t political, but was rather because sales of the rifle have declined.

Whether Walmart’s decision is political or purely business-driven warrants consideration. Time reports that Walmart stopped selling guns in a third of its stores in 2006, and the Huffington Post reports that the chain now doesn’t sell guns in two-thirds of its stores, even though over that time frame Americans’
annual firearm purchases tripled
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Walmart had less than 5% of the National sales of America's overwhelmingly favorite semi-automatic hunting rifle, the AR15's, so nobody is losing sleep over this political decision.  Roll Eyes

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As of 2012, there are an estimated 2.5-3.7 million rifles from the AR-15 family in civilian use in the United States.[50] They are favored for target shooting, hunting, and personal protection, and have become the most popular rifle in America.[51]


Conservatively, since 2012, the number of AR15s in civilian hands in the USA has increased considerably, where some estimate close to 5 million. Nobody really knows, because registration is optional at best.
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Reply #51 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 12:53pm
 
Walmart bows to public pressure to stop selling guns?  Great!  Now we just need to clean up the rest of American society and make them respect the laws that were passed to control their behavior.   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #52 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 1:51pm
 
Panther wrote on Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Conservatively, since 2012, the number of AR15s in civilian hands in the USA has increased considerably, where some estimate close to 5 million. Nobody really knows, because registration is optional at best.



How dumb
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Reply #53 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:29pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 1:51pm:
Panther wrote on Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Conservatively, since 2012, the number of AR15s in civilian hands in the USA has increased considerably, where some estimate close to 5 million. Nobody really knows, because registration is optional at best.



How dumb


Canada dismantled their long gun registry when they figured out it cost over $2 billion and prevented or solved zero zip zilch crimes.

Rifles which include AR15's only account for around 300 firearm homicides a year in the USA,twice as many people are killed with fists and feet according to FBI stats.




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Reply #54 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:31pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Canada dismantled their long gun registry when they figured out it cost over $2 billion and prevented ... zero zip zilch crimes.



There's no possible way to know if that's true.

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Reply #55 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:31pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Canada dismantled their long gun registry when they figured out it cost over $2 billion and prevented ... zero zip zilch crimes.



There's no possible way to know if that's true.



The front line Canadian police say gun registration prevented and solved zero crimes,it cost over $2 billion.


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Reply #56 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:34pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:31pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Canada dismantled their long gun registry when they figured out it cost over $2 billion and prevented ... zero zip zilch crimes.



There's no possible way to know if that's true.



The front line Canadian police say gun registration prevented ... zero crimes





There's no possible way to know if that's true.

Moreover, you know that.

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Reply #57 - Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 31st, 2015 at 1:51pm:
Panther wrote on Aug 30th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Conservatively, since 2012, the number of AR15s in civilian hands in the USA has increased considerably, where some estimate close to 5 million. Nobody really knows, because registration is optional at best.



How dumb


Canada dismantled their long gun registry when they figured out it cost over $2 billion and prevented or solved zero zip zilch crimes.


Yet Canadian police officers nearly all said the opposite Baron!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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Reply #58 - Sep 1st, 2015 at 2:48pm
 


What do Brits think of their Gun laws, & what do they think is wrong with them?

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