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Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:11am
 
I watched the Andre Rieu concert in Sao Paulo last night.

This guy is a master showman & entertainer. And he leads a very talented group of musicians & singers.
It's quite amazing how together they are able to hold an audience of all ages & cultures enthralled and emotionally involved with a diverse range of music.
His stock in trade of course are the 150 year-old Strauss waltzes and similar popular classics.
Even the black-hearted old Bogarde was drawn into the emotion of it all.

The organisation & planning, the rehearsing and musical arranging it must take to keep this ensemble on the road around the world year after year just leaves me gobsmacked.

And he collects soloists & players from everywhere. The South Africal girl who sings in this concert just had the most beautiful voice.

I hope he goes on for many years.
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Reply #1 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:14am
 
Meh he's a smug git, who disregards any music he doesnt play.
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Reply #2 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 1:59pm
 
Unfortunately I have not caught up with one of his concerts yet but would love to.  What do you think of Brazil????
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Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 2:06pm
 
I don't like what he does.
He plays classical muzak.

However many other people do like him.
So good on him and them.
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Reply #4 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 3:13pm
 
Sprint, it's not muzak. It's a variety of good music played well by excellent musicians.
Muzak doesn't bring out the emotions in people his performances do.
You don't see people weeping in elevators . . .unless they've been stuck there for hours.

Spartacus, what are you talking about. You think I flew over there last night or something?
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Reply #5 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 9:02pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Sprint, it's not muzak. It's a variety of good music played well by excellent musicians.
Muzak doesn't bring out the emotions in people his performances do.
You don't see people weeping in elevators . . .unless they've been stuck there for hours.

Spartacus, what are you talking about. You think I flew over there last night or something?
Oh I see, yes I thought you were saying that you were in Sao Paulo and attended his concert there.  So I assume it was on TV. Pay TV? I don't get pay TV 
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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:19pm
 
Yeah, I caught one of his Vienna concerts on TV recently. It was a masterful production. You have to be in the mood though.
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issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:19pm:
Yeah, I caught one of his Vienna concerts on TV recently. It was a masterful production. You have to be in the mood though.

Though I image seeing it live there in Vienna would be something quite different. I imagine Andre Rieu might be a little too soft core for Soren but I would think he could enlighten us as to how it would be an experience on quite another level when experienced live, especially in one of those old Viennese Hapsburg ballrooms.
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ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 9:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Sprint, it's not muzak. It's a variety of good music played well by excellent musicians.
Muzak doesn't bring out the emotions in people his performances do.
You don't see people weeping in elevators . . .unless they've been stuck there for hours.

Spartacus, what are you talking about. You think I flew over there last night or something?
Oh I see, yes I thought you were saying that you were in Sao Paulo and attended his concert there.  So I assume it was on TV. Pay TV? I don't get pay TV 


Yes and I can see how my wording was ambiguous.
The fact is I was searching for something to watch and I found this on the DVR and I'd never watched it.
I've seen 2 or 3 of his concerts (on TV) before and wished I'd saved them, but you can get them all on DVD.
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ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:57pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:19pm:
Yeah, I caught one of his Vienna concerts on TV recently. It was a masterful production. You have to be in the mood though.

Though I image seeing it live there in Vienna would be something quite different. I imagine Andre Rieu might be a little too soft core for Soren but I would think he could enlighten us as to how it would be an experience on quite another level when experienced live, especially in one of those old Viennese Hapsburg ballrooms.   

His repertoire is mostly operetta and a little kitchy but I wouldn't knock it. I am amused and a little bemused by seeing the 60s baby boomers grooving along to Strauss.

But perhaps the Strausses were the Rolling Stones of the late 19th century. The emotional repertoire of the music is the same as that of mass pop music.

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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 6:37pm:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:57pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:19pm:
Yeah, I caught one of his Vienna concerts on TV recently. It was a masterful production. You have to be in the mood though.

Though I image seeing it live there in Vienna would be something quite different. I imagine Andre Rieu might be a little too soft core for Soren but I would think he could enlighten us as to how it would be an experience on quite another level when experienced live, especially in one of those old Viennese Hapsburg ballrooms.   

His repertoire is mostly operetta and a little kitchy but I wouldn't knock it. I am amused and a little bemused by seeing the 60s baby boomers grooving along to Strauss.

But perhaps the Strausses were the Rolling Stones of the late 19th century. The emotional repertoire of the music is the same as that of mass pop music.



yes.
It is like those awful medleys bands play where they do a 30 second sample  of 10 different famous songs, all with the same 4 4 beat.
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Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:37pm
 

When I have experienced a full opera I have wept.

That's classical music.
That's not Andre
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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:40pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
When I have experienced a full opera I have wept.

That's classical music.
That's not Andre



Andre is the Nickelback of classical music.

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Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
When I have experienced a full opera I have wept.

That's classical music.
That's not Andre
Anyone in particular you can recommend.  I gots to see at least one top class opera before I die. 
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Reply #14 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:57pm
 

Here's a short guide:



Of course, the real things are quite a bit longer - but you get the drift.

Grin

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ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
When I have experienced a full opera I have wept.

That's classical music.
That's not Andre
Anyone in particular you can recommend.  I gots to see at least one top class opera before I die. 



I often think it is better if you do NOT know the story


Madame Butterfly, Swan Lake (HAS to have the music by Tchaikovsky)
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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2015 at 10:21pm
 
For my  money its gotta be Italian. Maybe La Traviatta. I don't need to hear German or English Opera, its second rate, like listening to a Chinese blues band.
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Reply #17 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:04am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Sprint, it's not muzak. It's a variety of good music played well by excellent musicians.


Grin Grin Grin

Andre Rieu is a showman who likes to combine Strauss with horseplay and novelty acts, and that's why he's regarded as a cheap populist and a pariah amongst 'serious' Strauss lovers. 

Over the years I've recorded most of his concerts onto DVD for my elderly widowed Dutch neighbour.

Nowadays I only concentrate on his annual concerts at Maastricht. If I was living in the UK I would have been making an annual pilgrimage to Maastricht to soak up the music and wallow in the atmosphere of several thousand people from all over Europe enjoying his concerts.

That's the problem with living at the arse-end of the world (Paul Keating, 1990) - we're so far away from the smörgåsbord of cultural activity across the length and breadth of Britain and continental Europe.

It's like we're living on The Planet of the Apes (Charlton Heston, 1968) and have to receive everything second-hand through the internet.  Cool
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Reply #18 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:35am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 10:21pm:
For my  money its gotta be Italian. Maybe La Traviatta. I don't need to hear German or English Opera, its second rate, like listening to a Chinese blues band.


Totally agree.
Has to be Italian.
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Reply #19 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:46am
 
I forgot --- Andre Rieu concerts have been playing on Sydney's SBS TV station for months now, every Saturday evening.

SBS (channel 44)

I've just checked, and I see they do re-runs of his Saturday shows during the week.

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Also, have a listen to Helmut Lotti. I have all his DVDs - If you can get hold of his "From Russia with Love" you won't be disappointed.

Incidentally, Andre Rieu and his orchestra played a piece written by actor Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal Lecter in The Silence of the Lambs) - while he was sitting in the audience with his wife. It wasn't bad.



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Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:04am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Sprint, it's not muzak. It's a variety of good music played well by excellent musicians.


Grin Grin Grin

Andre Rieu is a showman who likes to combine Strauss with horseplay and novelty acts, and that's why he's regarded as a cheap populist and a pariah amongst 'serious' Strauss lovers. 

Over the years I've recorded most of his concerts onto DVD for my elderly widowed Dutch neighbour.

Nowadays I only concentrate on his annual concerts at Maastricht. If I was living in the UK I would have been making an annual pilgrimage to Maastricht to soak up the music and wallow in the atmosphere of several thousand people from all over Europe enjoying his concerts.

That's the problem with living at the arse-end of the world (Paul Keating, 1990) - we're so far away from the smörgåsbord of cultural activity across the length and breadth of Britain and continental Europe.

It's like we're living on The Planet of the Apes (Charlton Heston, 1968) and have to receive everything second-hand through the internet.  Cool


This is not meant to be confrontational, Herb, but I totally reject the perception that one person's music listening is more serious than another's. You like it, you don't like it. There's no bloody snooty high brow BS other than in the mind of the beholder.

And as for Australia's lack of exposure to the arts; you think its bad today? This is Paris by comparison. You should have seen it when I was a kid.
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Reply #21 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:55am
 
That's right issuevoter. There's no "right" & "wrong" in music or indeed any of the arts.
I get pleasure from a wide range of music. Some I dislike intensely, so I just don't listen.
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Reply #22 - Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:26am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:48am:
And as for Australia's lack of exposure to the arts; you think its bad today? This is Paris by comparison. You should have seen it when I was a kid.


I arrived in 1961 ...

I have to confess I'm not a culture-vulture, and don't 'patronise' the Arts as probably I should. 

My tastes run to broadly eclectic, with porn being my staple nowadays.  Cool
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Reply #23 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:08am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:55am:
That's right issuevoter. There's no "right" & "wrong" in music or indeed any of the arts.
I get pleasure from a wide range of music. Some I dislike intensely, so I just don't listen.


Yes, and for those that like him, enjoy.
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Reply #24 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:08am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:26am:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:48am:
And as for Australia's lack of exposure to the arts; you think its bad today? This is Paris by comparison. You should have seen it when I was a kid.


I arrived in 1961 ...

I have to confess I'm not a culture-vulture, and don't 'patronise' the Arts as probably I should. 

My tastes run to broadly eclectic, with porn being my staple nowadays.  Cool
You ever wonder about mixing your porn interests with your artistic side.  Years ago I recall a science fiction porn film doing the rounds called "Spermula". I still have a laugh about that title.   

Actually here's the trailer


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'Elvira' was an all-time favourite of mine.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:35am:
issuevoter wrote on Jul 26th, 2015 at 10:21pm:
For my  money its gotta be Italian. Maybe La Traviatta. I don't need to hear German or English Opera, its second rate, like listening to a Chinese blues band.


Totally agree.
Has to be Italian.


Oh, I don't know; someone once said the Wagner's music isn't as bad as  it sounds...
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Reply #27 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 7:35pm
 
My grandmother loved operetta from the day she was taken to a performance as a little girl and I loved my grandmother - so I will not knock Andre and operetta even if it is not my thing.

I can see how people have an enormous enjoyment of it and that tells me that they are are the kind of people I could spend a very pleasant afternoon with. 

Anyway, what's NOT to like???



Watch it to the end....





You can't knock this.


What a girl.
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Full screen, full volume - if you still don't get opera then do not try again, it isn't for you.



You can see that the words hardly matter.
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I only have to hear the first few bars of some arias and I'm feeling the emotion.
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bogarde73 wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 3:12pm:
I only have to hear the first few bars of some arias and I'm feeling the emotion.


That's age catching up with you, bogarde. It's the same with me.
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Soren wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:24pm:


Full screen, full volume - if you still don't get opera then do not try again, it isn't for you.



You can see that the words hardly matter.


Oh, Annas amazing.
Will listen to it at home with good sound
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yes, that's why she is regarded as the worlds best.



this is one of my favs
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Yep, that is one of the best examples of "goosing" I have ever heard. Grin
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Yep, that is one of the best examples of "goosing" I have ever heard. Grin


For me it is "tearing".

Imagine playing that up loud to kids who are learning drama, then getting them to write the script to match that music ..........
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Yep, that is one of the best examples of "goosing" I have ever heard. Grin


For me it is "tearing".

Imagine playing that up loud to kids who are learning drama, then getting them to write the script to match that music ..........


Its great, but I have to hear it in context. Students might interpret it as melodrama. Passion and romance are not exactly fashionable these days. The arts are full of cynicism.
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Reply #36 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 9:09pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 3:38pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:24pm:


Full screen, full volume - if you still don't get opera then do not try again, it isn't for you.



You can see that the words hardly matter.


Oh, Annas amazing.
Will listen to it at home with good sound





2.10




What a girl.

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A full La Boheme.

Watch and realise why opera is about what can be only sung, not said.
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