Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15
th, 2015 at 6:09pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 14
th, 2015 at 10:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13
th, 2015 at 11:18pm:
Nothing stopping you from hunting foxes in Sydney's Eastern Suburbs, with your bolt action rifle, Baron.
Traps and baits are easier to use, in urban environments, Baron.
The Eastern suburbs are zoned residential Brian, it's against the law to shoot in residential areas, you can only shoot in areas zoned rural, iwould say the law stops LAFO shooting in residential areas.
What a shame you choose only to answer two of my points, Baron. Typical of your debating style though, isn't it?
The article I linked about foxes eating penguins in the OP answered your absurd claims about trapping and baiting being easier than shooting.
They said they were baiting year round at North Head,despite this year round indiscriminate baiting this method did nothing to remove these foxes who were shot by a NPWS officer.
There were 150 people involved in that operation for 2 foxes with only 2 marksmen from the NPWS, the foxes were shot by marksmen who had fox whistles so what futile efforts did the other 148 people contribute to removing these foxes?
A non lethal dose of bait can cause animals to develop an aversion to baits,there was a study which had around 20 foxes fitted with GPS collars who were released into an area before a baiting program,they found only 3 were killed by baits and 20 days later when the collars were set to be released around 15 foxes were still alive,2 were killed by hunters.
Trapping is inhumane IMO and far more work than shooting,when a trapped animal is caught they usually shoot it before removing it from the trap.
Quote:-Trapped dogs will be without food or water for a period up to 24 hours
-Assumes traps are not set in bad weather and are placed in shaded areas
-Although traps are padded they can result in fractures and amputations
-Psychological studies indicates traps cause stress,anxiety,fear,frustration,pain from injuries and exertion from struggling against the trap.
Duration- With head shots, a properly placed shot will result in immediate insensibility.Suffering-The approach of a human to a trapped dog will cause some distress, a well placed head shot should not cause any additional suffering.
daff.gov.au/SiteCollectionDocuments/animal-plant/animal-welfare/aaws/humaneness-... A well placed head shot results in immediate death, the baits take hours/days to kill with severe suffering for the animal.
Quote:Duration-
After a fox has ingested bait containing 1080 there is a latent period of around 30 minutes to 3 hours before initial signs like hyperexcitability,vocalisation,manic running and retching are observed.Signs of CNS disturbance including collapse,convulsions and tetanic spasms then follow,Death usually occurs about 2 hours after the onset of clinical signs.
In an experimental study of foxes dosed with 1080 in meat baits,there was a mean time of 4.05 hours between dosage and onset of clinical signs and a mean 1.57 hours from onset of clinical signs until death.
Suffering-
After the onset of clinical signs when animals are retching,displaying manic running and there is little or no CNS disturbance,it is likely that they will suffer and could experience distress,confusion,anxiety and pain.
In the later stages,where severe CND dysfunction has developed,it's unknown if animals are perceiving pain.
daff.gov.au/SiteCollectionDocuments/animal-plant/animal-welfare/aaws/humaneness-... Your hoplophobia is making you think trapping/baiting is an alternative when it actually increases pain and suffering for the animals compared to an instant death from shooting.
Trapping and baiting is inhumane,it results in more work and money, I cite the efforts of the 148 people involved at North head to remove 2 foxes that were shot when trapping/baiting failed to achieve anything