Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:


If you want to talk economics do some research on what these feral pests are costing us from agriculture to city folk doing studies along with wages of people who manage these pests,you could add figures for pre 1996 gun laws to today to see how much more we are paying.

If biological agents like Myxomatsis worked why do we still have rabbits in plague proportions in country areas,it results in a slow cruel death compared to shooting.
The rabbit proof fence was supposed to keep rabbits out,what did that cost to fence off the country?
We have millions of rabbits yet cannot even supply Akubra hats with rabbit skins so they import them from Russia.

I have a friend with a property near Dalgety,the snow has brought the deer down to lower altitutdes,he wants me to shoot some deer.
He has been given a Deer Control Order under the Deer act 2006 sect 8.
8 (4) Says I don't need a game licence if subject to a deer control order.
Interesting how deer are the only species where 1080 cannot be used to poison them,they should ban 1080.
http://austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/da200649/s8.html
I see this as helping a friend out.

The RSPCA say shooting is the most humane method for dealing with deer,are you suggesting I use methods considered less humane?
We have animal cruelty laws I have to abide by I cannot club them to death with a lump of wood like our ancient ancestors did, I prefer guns because it's the most humane method according to the RSPCA,only a despicable hoplophobic cretin would consider forcing someone to use a less humane method.
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I disagree with the RSPCA on heart/lung shots they are required for professional aerial cullers.
When they allowed hunting in national parks and state forests which was opposed by many they did not allow night hunting on safety grounds.
It's a gun confiscating licence revoking offence to have a firearm and spotlight after sunset and before sunrise.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:



Ignorant AND astoundingly naive.

He thinks that once you own a gun, you never break the law for the rest of your life.

Moreover, he believes that every single person who does break the law (non-gun owners, of course) is charged by police and eventually convicted by the courts.

His naivety and ignorance is almost child-like.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:


The hysterical hoplophobes like peccahead should seek medical help for their irrational fears,he like to tar all law abiding firearm owners as criminals despite the fact every single one of them has a clean criminal record.

Many people get good behaviour bonds with no conviction recorded if they use what is known as section 10.

A firearm owner can lose their firearms licence and have guns confiscated with no conviction recorded if they are subjected to a good behaviour bond.
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You don't need to have a conviction recorded to have a firearms licence revoked, if you are given a good behaviour bond you lose your firearms.

Hoplophobes like peccahead are ignorant of our laws

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 10:49am:


While you could, I suppose "invent" a biological control agent, I wouldn't be willing to put any money on it, Baron.

Generally what is done is found an agent that naturally exists and is endemic to overseas herds of Deer and which our herd has no resistance to.    Then you make sure it can't infect any other wildlife and once that is determined, you release it into the wild, just as Myxomatosis was and Calicivirus  were, to control rabbits.  If you believe rabbits are in plague proportions now, you have no idea what it was like in the first half of the century in Australia!   

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We will always have a constant fight to control their numbers BUT do you want those numbers to continue to grow, because there is an incentive on top of their natural fecundity?  I don't.  I'd rather see a nature biological control system used.  Of course, we might need to immunise domesticated herds but that is still better than having the state make money and every johnny-come-lately with a gun out there shooting each other.

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Provide a quote from the RSPCA where they state that, please, Baron.

I suspect they've said because there are no alternatives.   Biological alternatives result in nature deaths for the animals and are therefore more humane than butchery by gun IMHO.   

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:
Deer are a feral animal that destroy native vegetation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:
Kill every one of them. Good clean kills. I missed one once with a single barreled shotgun. They are a hard animal to shoot as they are quick and easily startled. The people that shoot them use scopes and kill them quick.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

At night, standing up through the sun roof of a small car on a bumpy road with a single barreled shotgun. It's no wonder I missed. I didn't miss with the boot load of bunny rabbits we had though. delicious!!