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Credit Cards - How The Banks Screw The Battlers
Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:00pm
 
Credit cards: it's how the bankers screw the battlers

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    June 24, 2015
    Canberra Times

The biggest financial obligation that Australians have after their homes and cars is credit card debt, $50 billion of it. More than $33 billion of this is accruing interest, often at eye-watering rates over 19 per cent per annum.   Sad

Financial counselling agencies around Australia are increasingly helping people with credit card debt worth $50,000 or more. This debt is usually across multiple cards, with aggressive marketing meaning some people are paying down credit card debt with new credit cards. All the while, the banks are raking in huge profits from people who are struggling financially.   Sad

    Banks are exploiting the lack of competition in a market that relies on struggling Australians to regain their profits.

The average credit card balance in Australia is around $3,200, and the average balance which is accruing interest is a little over $2,000, but averages hide the full story.


Many Australians have debt across multiple credit cards – a cycle that must change with improved lending criteria.

Many credit card users – more than a third – are known in the industry as "transactors". They tend to pay back their balance before the expiry of the interest free period, and pay very little for the use of the card. Transactors are likely to use a reward program and, if so, the bank is probably making little money from them.


At the other end of the spectrum are "revolvers" – those who are unable to pay back their balance in full at the end of the month and are paying interest. Constant revolvers are people who are paying interest month-to-month, and it is this group that  is struggling financially. It's these Australians who are the most profitable to the banks.

Reports this week that the Senate Economics Committee will inquire into the credit card market are timely. Since cash rates started falling in 2012, average credit card rates have hardly moved down at all. The average rate on a standard card is around 19.5 per cent, and on a low rate card it is 13 per cent. With the cash rate a low 2 per cent, it's no wonder senators are concerned about the impact of these high rates on households.


Consumer Action Law Centre CEO Gerard Brody believes there needs to be more competition in the credit card market.

Persistently high credit card rates indicate a failure of competition. In most consumer markets, competition should bring down prices, but that's not what has occurred with credit cards. There are a number of reasons why competition is not working as it should.   Sad

First, it can be very difficult to switch your credit card from a high rate card to a low rate card. Credit cards are often bundled with other banking products such as a home loan or transaction account. Unbundling may mean that you lose special deals on your other banking products.

Second, more and more of us also have automatic deductions on our credit cards, paying our monthly insurance premiums, gym memberships or newspaper subscriptions. Unlike direct debits on transaction accounts, you cannot cancel these arrangements directly with the bank but must contact each merchant separately. The hassle factor means that consumers can give up.

Where banks do compete, it is usually in relation to zero per cent interest balance transfer cards which are marketed aggressively. However, the teaser rates on these cards generally do not apply to new purchases, and fees can be applied to the balance transfer. At the end of the introductory period, the interest rates bounce back to the unsustainable rate you were trying to avoid in the first place. There's no doubt that the ideal customer for a bank is someone who is unable to repay their balance within the interest-free period. It is this group of customers that can be paying $1,000 a year in interest charges or more.

In 2012, banks were prohibited from promoting unsolicited credit card limit increase offers, unless consumers had consented to receive them. Credit card providers were also required to direct repayments to the most expensive part of credit card debt first – making it easier to reduce debt. And monthly statements had to include personalised information such as how long it would take to pay off an entire balance if you only make minimum repayments.

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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:06pm
 
Industry statistics suggest that these reforms impacted on credit card profitability. In 2012, balances accruing interest reached more than $37 billion but have since then reduced to $33 billion. Overall credit limits have continued to rise during this time. The banks argue that households have become more responsible, paying down their credit card debts. While this may tell part of the story, it seems the 2012 reforms made important inroads.

On one reading, an answer to the question why credit card rates have not come down with the cash rate is simple: banks are exploiting the lack of competition in a market that relies on struggling Australians to regain their profits.

So what should be done? We must build on the 2012 reforms and provide more personalised information to consumers. Instead of disclosing interest rates and fees alone, lenders should be required to disclose the actual amounts you are charged in a single cost figure. New providers should be required to disclose an average cost figure: NAB states that an average cost of a low rate card is as much as $717 per year. Single cost figures such as this would focus a consumer's mind and encourage them to shop around.

Teaser rate cards should be improved as well. For example, rather than offering a 6 or 12-month introductory low-rate period – banks know that many consumers won't be able to pay off their debt during that time – there should be a minimum teaser rate of 18 months or more. This would make it easier for Australians to take advantage of these deals.

Finally, the responsible lending obligations of credit card providers must be examined. At the moment, lenders only need to be sure a borrower can pay back a minimum monthly repayment, which is commonly only 2 per cent of the balance owing. Instead, lenders should be sure a borrower can repay the full credit limit on the card over a reasonable period, making it less likely that unsustainable debt will be incurred.

When struggling Australians are fuelling the profits of our major banks through products designed to keep them in that cycle of debt, we mustn't stand by and let it continue.

Gerard Brody is chief executive officer of the  Consumer Action Law Centre.
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:24pm
 
there is a solution imfullofit....

GET A JOB

then you can pay off your credit card!
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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:31pm
 

Get a job so the banksters can rip you off.....top idea!

Get a good job that pays well so that you have more for the banksters to rip off.

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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:32pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:31pm:
Get a job so the banksters can rip you off.....top idea!

Get a good job that pays well so that you have more for the banksters to rip off.




another POOR person giving advice.

seriously pansi, you can be quite a dumb schmuck when you arent just being offensive such as when you are supporting ISIS.
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:56pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:31pm:
Get a job so the banksters can rip you off.....top idea!

Get a good job that pays well so that you have more for the banksters to rip off.




another POOR person giving advice.

seriously pansi, you can be quite a dumb schmuck when you arent just being offensive such as when you are supporting ISIS.


Longweekend58 is the most poverty stricken denizen on this BBS. Poverty stricken in morality, spirituality and intellect. When the soul is empty there is no meaning to life beyond Longweekend58's mean-spirited denigration of others.

Longweekend58's claim to being religious is as empty as it's words.
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm
 
Panis is right. Why get a job when you can just put it on the credit card.

Many institutions allow you to transfer credit card debt to them at 0% interest. I think you have to transfer your credit card also. If you milk this right, you can turn it into a very large interest free loan. They will even do it multiple times.
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 1:37am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Panis is right. Why get a job when you can just put it on the credit card.

Many institutions allow you to transfer credit card debt to them at 0% interest. I think you have to transfer your credit card also. If you milk this right, you can turn it into a very large interest free loan. They will even do it multiple times.


Apologists like muffdiver and longliar do everyone such incredible harm because they're incapable of joining the dots. Banks are able to profit from unconscionable scams like this because they know that everyone will  be caught out at some time and many will get caught out often no matter how smart you are. Now multiply the number of scams you encounter every day  you do business with businesses constantly trying something on (because muffdiver and longliar argue  its OK for them to try it on)  and our position is becoming increasingly untenable because its just simply impossible for us to constantly inform ourselves and protect ourselves from the multitude of scams out there. Muffdiver, I could have told you that that Acer cashback promotion you got scammed on was a scam because smart and dumb people are being caught out by it all the time. And of course you would have been screaming buyer beware except that on this occasion the sucker was you and in that case you feel justified to do something about the scamers instead of criticising the victim (which in this case was you). Buyer beware is a very old principle that has no practical application these days when the number of times we do business in the course of a day are phenomenal compared to the 15th century. Add to that the size of the terms and conditions of each contracted, the number of terms and conditions you have to read each day and the concerted industrious approach business takes to decieve you and buyer beware is just nonsense.But you and that idiot LongLiar just keep apologising for these scammers and continue digging the hole for yourselves and the rest of us.
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:56am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:31pm:
Get a job so the banksters can rip you off.....top idea!

Get a good job that pays well so that you have more for the banksters to rip off.




another POOR person giving advice.

seriously pansi, you can be quite a dumb schmuck when you arent just being offensive such as when you are supporting ISIS.




Yes, I'm living in poverty, you and the guvvy better believe that.

Does that outpouring of verbal diarrhoea mean that you are embarrassed because you support the 1% that take food from the mouths of babes>
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:58am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Panis is right. Why get a job when you can just put it on the credit card.

Many institutions allow you to transfer credit card debt to them at 0% interest. I think you have to transfer your credit card also. If you milk this right, you can turn it into a very large interest free loan. They will even do it multiple times.



Thanks for the advice freediver, I'll have to get myself one or two of those fangle dangle credit cards and give it a go.

I'll let you know.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:04am
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 1:37am:
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Panis is right. Why get a job when you can just put it on the credit card.

Many institutions allow you to transfer credit card debt to them at 0% interest. I think you have to transfer your credit card also. If you milk this right, you can turn it into a very large interest free loan. They will even do it multiple times.


Apologists like muffdiver and longliar do everyone such incredible harm because they're incapable of joining the dots. Banks are able to profit from unconscionable scams like this because they know that everyone will  be caught out at some time and many will get caught out often no matter how smart you are. Now multiply the number of scams you encounter every day  you do business with businesses constantly trying something on (because muffdiver and longliar argue  its OK for them to try it on)  and our position is becoming increasingly untenable because its just simply impossible for us to constantly inform ourselves and protect ourselves from the multitude of scams out there. Muffdiver, I could have told you that that Acer cashback promotion you got scammed on was a scam because smart and dumb people are being caught out by it all the time. And of course you would have been screaming buyer beware except that on this occasion the sucker was you and in that case you feel justified to do something about the scamers instead of criticising the victim (which in this case was you). Buyer beware is a very old principle that has no practical application these days when the number of times we do business in the course of a day are phenomenal compared to the 15th century. Add to that the size of the terms and conditions of each contracted, the number of terms and conditions you have to read each day and the concerted industrious approach business takes to decieve you and buyer beware is just nonsense.But you and that idiot LongLiar just keep apologising for these scammers and continue digging the hole for yourselves and the rest of us.


you could of course simply NOT spend money you dont have.  it is an option many people choose.  less ipads, iphone and ipods.  less computers and maccas meals.

its not that hard.
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:04am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 1:37am:
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Panis is right. Why get a job when you can just put it on the credit card.

Many institutions allow you to transfer credit card debt to them at 0% interest. I think you have to transfer your credit card also. If you milk this right, you can turn it into a very large interest free loan. They will even do it multiple times.


Apologists like muffdiver and longliar do everyone such incredible harm because they're incapable of joining the dots. Banks are able to profit from unconscionable scams like this because they know that everyone will  be caught out at some time and many will get caught out often no matter how smart you are. Now multiply the number of scams you encounter every day  you do business with businesses constantly trying something on (because muffdiver and longliar argue  its OK for them to try it on)  and our position is becoming increasingly untenable because its just simply impossible for us to constantly inform ourselves and protect ourselves from the multitude of scams out there. Muffdiver, I could have told you that that Acer cashback promotion you got scammed on was a scam because smart and dumb people are being caught out by it all the time. And of course you would have been screaming buyer beware except that on this occasion the sucker was you and in that case you feel justified to do something about the scamers instead of criticising the victim (which in this case was you). Buyer beware is a very old principle that has no practical application these days when the number of times we do business in the course of a day are phenomenal compared to the 15th century. Add to that the size of the terms and conditions of each contracted, the number of terms and conditions you have to read each day and the concerted industrious approach business takes to decieve you and buyer beware is just nonsense.But you and that idiot LongLiar just keep apologising for these scammers and continue digging the hole for yourselves and the rest of us.


you could of course simply NOT spend money you dont have.  it is an option many people choose.  less ipads, iphone and ipods.  less computers and maccas meals.

its not that hard.

OR sh!t for brains, instead of discouraging people buying and selling, you could stop your mindless defense of unconscionable business  tactics and joins the courous of people calling for business to stop  seeing you and the rest of us as nothing more then something to cheat.  You may scoff at such an approach but believe it or not it's Christian ( or in your capitalist zeal did you forget) .
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:50am
 
I think I will vote Greens next election, the other two parties are gutless subservients to both big business and unions.

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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:59am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:50am:
I think I will vote Greens next election, the other two parties are gutless subservients to both big business and unions.

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It's looking that way for many of us........not especially for love of the Greens but to show the other two they're on the nose.....and vote below the line, it's most important.
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:16am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:04am:
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you could of course simply NOT spend money you dont have.  it is an option many people choose.  less ipads, iphone and ipods.  less computers and maccas meals.

its not that hard.
Oh the horror! The horror!
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