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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Is this a scam or not .... ? Jun 19^th, 2015 at 9:48pm link
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2015 at 9:51pm Yes, it probably is
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2015 at 10:10pm No way, Walter. It'll be totally genuine and you ought have no fear whatsoever. Just send them what they want, and no more fibro house, bicycles, impossible cat Vet bills and rip off Chinese medicos will be in your life. Well done Dude. You've earned it.
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Reply #3 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 7:00am

Aussie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

No way, Walter. It'll be totally genuine and you ought have no fear whatsoever. Just send them what they want, and no more fibro house, bicycles, impossible cat Vet bills and rip off Chinese medicos will be in your life.

Well done Dude. You've earned it.

I'm related to this dude ... But! Is this another Nigerian scam to clean out my bank account?

He was a famous painter - and so there could be a SH*T load of money just waiting for my greedy trembling hands to reach out and take possession of like the movie A Fistful of F***in' Dollars with Clint Eastwood.

Tell you wot ~~ YOU apply for the cash, and I'll give you half. How's that for a deal?

The link is above.

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Reply #4 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 7:31am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 7:00am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

No way, Walter. It'll be totally genuine and you ought have no fear whatsoever. Just send them what they want, and no more fibro house, bicycles, impossible cat Vet bills and rip off Chinese medicos will be in your life.

Well done Dude. You've earned it.

I'm related to this dude ... But! Is this another Nigerian scam to clean out my bank account?

He was a famous painter - and so there could be a SH*T load of money just waiting for my greedy trembling hands to reach out and take possession of like the movie A Fistful of F***in' Dollars with Clint Eastwood.

Tell you wot ~~ YOU apply for the cash, and I'll give you half. How's that for a deal?

The link is above.

It's different to anything I've seen from the Nigerian scams.

They're not asking for your bank account details.....yet!

Make the initial contact and see where it leads, after all, that information is most likely in the White Pages directory.

Get a new email address from Google or Yahoo though.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #5 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 7:54am Thanks, Pansi - but I simply don't dare. I was hoping to run Aussie through this mine field like one of those piggies they used to use during WW2 ... (or was it Muslims? I can't remember).
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Reply #6 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:17am

The fine print lol!!!

12. How much does it cost to use HHA/FPAR members?

Members work on a commission basis on a 'no win, no fee' basis. There are no advance fees and the commission is deducted from your inheritance (if any).
If there is no entitlement or the sum is very small, any losses are borne by the member researcher, so you never have to meet any costs.

Commission rates vary but are typically 20-25%. If the estate is known to be large with few heirs, then a better rate might be negotiated.
Our members are small firms consisting of one person or just a few people, so they are not VAT registered. This provides a further saving over larger firms, which potentially charge higher commission fees PLUS VAT.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #7 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:20am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

The fine print lol!!!

12. How much does it cost to use HHA/FPAR members?

Members work on a commission basis on a 'no win, no fee' basis. There are no advance fees and the commission is deducted from your inheritance (if any).
If there is no entitlement or the sum is very small, any losses are borne by the member researcher, so you never have to meet any costs.

Commission rates vary but are typically 20-25%. If the estate is known to be large with few heirs, then a better rate might be negotiated.
Our members are small firms consisting of one person or just a few people, so they are not VAT registered. This provides a further saving over larger firms, which potentially charge higher commission fees PLUS VAT.

Good onya Pansi. You're braver than the rest of us pussies.

Incidentally -- never get caught out on that 'No Win - No Fees' bullshit.

What they don't tell you is that the Court fees (bold type) could run to thousands ....... Huh

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Reply #8 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:31am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

The fine print lol!!!

12. How much does it cost to use HHA/FPAR members?

Members work on a commission basis on a 'no win, no fee' basis. There are no advance fees and the commission is deducted from your inheritance (if any).
If there is no entitlement or the sum is very small, any losses are borne by the member researcher, so you never have to meet any costs.

Commission rates vary but are typically 20-25%. If the estate is known to be large with few heirs, then a better rate might be negotiated.
Our members are small firms consisting of one person or just a few people, so they are not VAT registered. This provides a further saving over larger firms, which potentially charge higher commission fees PLUS VAT.

Good onya Pansi. You're braver than the rest of us pussies.

Incidentally -- never get caught out on that 'No Win - No Fees' bullshit.

What they don't tell you is that the Court fees (bold type) could run to thousands ....... Huh

Yes I am not surprised to hear that Herb.

Always wondered what happens if the No Win Lawyers decide they want to pull out halfway through the case?

"Sorry Mr Herbert dont think its is winnable!"

Who pays the court costs to date?

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Reply #9 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 11:48am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

The fine print lol!!!

12. How much does it cost to use HHA/FPAR members?

Members work on a commission basis on a 'no win, no fee' basis. There are no advance fees and the commission is deducted from your inheritance (if any).
If there is no entitlement or the sum is very small, any losses are borne by the member researcher, so you never have to meet any costs.

Commission rates vary but are typically 20-25%. If the estate is known to be large with few heirs, then a better rate might be negotiated.
Our members are small firms consisting of one person or just a few people, so they are not VAT registered. This provides a further saving over larger firms, which potentially charge higher commission fees PLUS VAT.

Good onya Pansi. You're braver than the rest of us pussies.

Incidentally -- never get caught out on that 'No Win - No Fees' bullshit.

What they don't tell you is that the Court fees (bold type) could run to thousands ....... Huh

Yes I am not surprised to hear that Herb.

Always wondered what happens if the No Win Lawyers decide they want to pull out halfway through the case?

"Sorry Mr Herbert dont think its is winnable!"

Who pays the court costs to date?

The client. No win/no fee does not mean what you might think. The Lawyers will always want up front payment for anticipated outlays including Barrister's costs, expert Reports, Medical Reports, filing fees etc. Further, if the case is lost (which would be rare in a no win no fee situation) you are up for the (party/party) legal costs of the other side. Lawyers do not offer the service unless there is a very strong prospect of success.

Read the fine print set out in the Retainer Agreement.

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Reply #10 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 12:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Further, if the case is lost (which would be rare in a no win no fee situation) you are up for the (party/party) legal costs of the other side.

Yes. Good point. I forgot about that.

The initial attractions of being offered a 'No Win - No Fee' proposition could literally end up costing you your house and leave you in the street with a battered leather suitcase wondering what the bugger*** hell happened.

That's when you ask 'Aussie' to take you to The Gap ... where you do a runner .... Tongue

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Reply #11 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 1:14pm

herb did you read the small print across the bottom....

when I was working a found out via something similar to this...that I could be entitled to a British widows pension...

Roll Eyes

.. I thought rubbish I am working...anyway turned out they were right.. however I cant remember the details..I think they may have got a % of the first payment as it was back dated 12 months...

not sure how it came about but my daughter got in touch with the British Embassy here...and they told her that yes I was entitled to this.. but if you apply through the govt it wont cost you a penny they do it all for free

so my suggestion herb is ring the Embassy and make an inquiry...as for a while after my experience the company did advertise for a while but havent seen an ad in many years....

if you do make a fortune I do accept brown paper bags for this information.... Roll Eyes

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #12 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 1:15pm Aussie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2015 at 11:48am: Read the fine print set out in the Retainer Agreement thats when you need another lawyer to do that for you...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47316 At my desk.	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #13 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 1:53pm Sounds like a good idea cods. Use these no win no fee people to see if you have a case, but don't sign anything. If they sound keen, take it to a real lawyer. Maybe they make you sign something before they will even talk to you.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Is this a scam or not .... ? Reply #14 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 2:27pm they could ask for money up front to cover an investigate after reading the bit at the bottom...I would do my own investigation first I think... and I wish him luck....only had dead beats in my family.. left bills not money...
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