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Accountability Not Deradicalisation is the answer
Jun 18th, 2015 at 1:04pm
 
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Good news for academics,those self appointed Islamic community leaders and other assorted rent seekers,there's a new game in town:it's called deradicalisation.

Anti radicalisation and deradicalisation are the new growth industries becoming fat on community fears about homegrown terrorism and many millions in state and federal government funding.
Governments desperately want to be seen doing something even in the face of substantial evidence that deradicalisation schemes have about the same success as pyramid schemes.

But unlike some of his colleagues in academia who have jumped on the anti terror gravy train,Professor Kessler,who has studied Islam,including militant Islam,for more than 50 years,can see that deradicalisation is a strategy doomed to failure.

The main reason being that the extremists within the faith are not guilty of heresy,indeed they represent many of the same views and belief systems tha are entirely compatible with the doctrine of Islam.

So there is no ground within the mainstream for calling back the fundamentalists

dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/accountability-not-deradicalisation-which-is-...



The Islamic community should be accountable for their fundamental muslims, these deradicalisation programs costing us millions are doomed to failure because the fundamentalists are following Islam.

Are there any other religions we spend millions on every year with deradicalisation programs or is it just the muslims?
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..........Are there any other religions we spend millions on every year with deradicalisation programs or is it just the muslims? .....


as far as I am aware this is islams problem.
Ony islam has this problem.

Everyone else pays for it.
We should ban islam or charge the mosques for every cent islam costs us.
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Reply #2 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:20pm
 
Baron would prefer hundreds of terrorist attacks - as long as muslims feel bad about it. As opposed to stopping the attacks altogether.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.
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Reply #4 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:38pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.


Thanks Wally. Always good to have a Muslim's input on these things.
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Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:38pm:
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.


Thanks Wally. Always good to have a Muslim's input on these things.


Anytime.I like getting onto barons nerves, if he has any.
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Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:45pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.




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In 13 countries around the world,all of them muslim,people who openly espouse atheism or reject the official state religion of Islam face execution under the law.
reuters.com/article/2013/12/10/us-religion-atheists-idUSBRE9B900G20131210


Perhaps that number should be revised to 14 countries with the Islamic state that kill people for thought crimes.

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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:48pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Baron would prefer hundreds of terrorist attacks - as long as muslims feel bad about it. As opposed to stopping the attacks altogether.


Over 30,000 Pakistanis have died from Islamic terror in the last decade or so, as long as muslims asses are pointing towards the ground we will have Islamic terrorists chanting Allahu Akbar while killing innocent people.

How do you suggest we stop these problems with devout fundamental muslims Gandalf?
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Reply #8 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:50pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:38pm:
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.


Thanks Wally. Always good to have a Muslim's input on these things.


Anytime.I like getting onto barons nerves, if he has any.


No chance of that walid, you only make yourself look like a dumbfvckistani
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Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:53pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Baron would prefer hundreds of terrorist attacks - as long as muslims feel bad about it. As opposed to stopping the attacks altogether.


Over 30,000 Pakistanis have died from Islamic terror in the last decade or so, as long as muslims asses are pointing towards the ground we will have Islamic terrorists chanting Allahu Akbar while killing innocent people.

How do you suggest we stop these problems with devout fundamental muslims Gandalf?


Oh thats easy then Baron - ban Islam.

Thats what you seriously have in mind right?
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Reply #10 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:58pm
 
XfBaronvonrort wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:50pm:
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:38pm:
wally1 wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Australia should bring the death penalty to atheists.


Thanks Wally. Always good to have a Muslim's input on these things.


Anytime.I like getting onto barons nerves, if he has any.


No chance of that walid, you only make yourself look like a dumbfvckistani


No need to cry.

I was born here and not from any athiestastani country.
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 3:07pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Baron would prefer hundreds of terrorist attacks - as long as muslims feel bad about it. As opposed to stopping the attacks altogether.


Over 30,000 Pakistanis have died from Islamic terror in the last decade or so, as long as muslims asses are pointing towards the ground we will have Islamic terrorists chanting Allahu Akbar while killing innocent people.

How do you suggest we stop these problems with devout fundamental muslims Gandalf?



Please answer this question Gandalf.
Or any other muslim.
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Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 3:08pm
 
I already did - ban Islam.
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Reply #13 - Jun 18th, 2015 at 3:16pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
I already did - ban Islam.


sorry, I did not see your answer before I posted.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 18th, 2015 at 1:04pm:
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Good news for academics,those self appointed Islamic community leaders and other assorted rent seekers,there's a new game in town:it's called deradicalisation.

Anti radicalisation and deradicalisation are the new growth industries becoming fat on community fears about homegrown terrorism and many millions in state and federal government funding.
Governments desperately want to be seen doing something even in the face of substantial evidence that deradicalisation schemes have about the same success as pyramid schemes.

But unlike some of his colleagues in academia who have jumped on the anti terror gravy train,Professor Kessler,who has studied Islam,including militant Islam,for more than 50 years,can see that deradicalisation is a strategy doomed to failure.

The main reason being that the extremists within the faith are not guilty of heresy,indeed they represent many of the same views and belief systems tha are entirely compatible with the doctrine of Islam.

So there is no ground within the mainstream for calling back the fundamentalists

dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/accountability-not-deradicalisation-which-is-...



The Islamic community should be accountable for their fundamental muslims, these deradicalisation programs costing us millions are doomed to failure because the fundamentalists are following Islam.

Are there any other religions we spend millions on every year with deradicalisation programs or is it just the muslims?


You going to demand that Christians are responsible for what their radical compatriots do/have done, Baron?   Or are you just going to reserve this special responsibility only to Muslims?   Roll Eyes
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