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Jun 12th, 2015 at 7:32pm
 
I can't post links yet, so Ima copy/paste the article with a chopped up link to the article at the end. Please bear with that.

This is fascinating stuff.

"These 25 Examples of Male Privilege from a Trans Guy’s Perspective Really Prove the Point

Quite a bit changed for me over the first couple of years I started testosterone.

My health and mental wellbeing improved, my happy button grew over an inch in length, my natural musk became so fragrant that now I gross even myself out if I don’t shower pretty much every day (no deodorant can contain this beast).

So many awesome, big-deal body changes and mind improvements flourished.

Then there were the smaller, odder things: I finally gained an appreciation for peanut butter and chocolate, my favorite color went from blue to green, my most hated school subject suddenly became a favored pastime.

All sorts of things, from the big to the small, altered themselves.

I was indeed exactly the same person as I’d always been, just the 2.0 version.

In the long run, I don’t always know which things were an actual, physical reaction to the T, which were a result of getting out of a toxic environment, and which were simply my tastes naturally changing as I put on a few years.

But just as fascinating as it was to witness my mental and physical changes, it was just as equal of an adjustment to comprehend how other people were responding to me.

In short, I was being treated better by everyday America because people were reading me as a young, white, straight (?!) male. And I recognized many new privileges that came my way because of it.

For the record, this isn’t an article meant for transphobic people to share around and say, “See?! See?! Trans guys are totally reaping all the benefits of patriarchy, and WE MUST HATE THEM!”

If you think this is true, you’re not paying attention. And clearly haven’t educated yourself appropriately on trans issues. Or patriarchal issues. Or feminist issues. Or really any issue that has to do with inequality based upon this toxic culture of ours.

Rather, this article is simply meant to focus on male privilege at large, primarily owned by cis men who think they’re bestowing it only upon other cis men.

Yes, plenty of (passing) trans guys do feel the effects of male privilege. Especially us white ones. I wouldn’t argue against that for a second.

But we can’t be wasting time griping over trans guys because they happen to gain male privilege for transition reasons that have nothing to do with it. What we need to be focusing on is—you know—male privilege, which is the actual problem. The patriarchy is being unfair, so it’s the patriarchy we need to attack.

The fact of the matter is that male privilege makes me feel awkward.

I recognize the unfairness that’s happening, so my job is to help further call it out.

I’m read as a man now, after all. And the irony there is that other men are more apt to listen to me about these issues.

So here’s a (very) short list of the everyday ways people have changed their behavior toward me – for no logical reason whatsoever.

1. I’m Suddenly Funny

I’ve always been dry, sarcastic, and satirical with my humor.

In Ye Olden Times, I was considered unfunny at best – and a bitch at worst.

Now that I’m a short white guy, people automatically peg me for a comedian and laugh at the bulk of my mouth zings.

But nothing has changed. I’ve even recycled some of my old material that people didn’t find funny before just to make sure.

2. Yet I’m Still Taken (More) Seriously

I’m still amazed at the amount of people that now immediately shut their mouths the second I open mine.

Believe me, my ideas haven’t improved at all.

I’ve even tried to derail serious conversations with ludicrous stuff just to see what would happen – and I’d still be regarded highly.

3. I Rarely Get Interrupted

I used to be interrupted so often while presenting as a woman that I in turn started to talk over people as a form of conversational survival.

Unfortunately, because it became so ingrained in me, I still find myself doing it from time to time even though it’s rarely necessary anymore.

4. I Get Paid More

The proof is in my paychecks. Actual, numerical proof.

5. It’s Easier for Me to Be Poor

Aside from usually getting paid more, it’s been easier to find work when the person doing the hiring is a white guy.

It’s like helping out a buddy or something.

6. My Clothing Is More Practical

And better made and longer lasting and cheaper and less judged…

7. I Get a Ton of Free Passes

For the record, I’ve never done anything horrific enough to invoke the all-saving phrase of “Boys will be boys,” but I often forget to watch my mouth in front of superiors and authority figures.

And while I was getting into tons of trouble for the smallest thing through school and my earliest jobs, these days I can’t recall a single time I’ve been called out or reprimanded.

8. I’m Not Held Accountable for Keeping Rape from Happening

I remember all of the rape prevention education I got, which always focused on how I should behave, where I should walk when, how to appropriately cover my drink, and so on.

These days, I’m told nothing. Not even not to rape.

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Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 7:33pm
 
9. I’m Very Likely to Arrive Home Safely After Walking Alone at Night

Assuming nobody is out looking to f-g bash, but that’s a somewhat different matter.

It remains that I walk alone at night far more than I used to purely because I’m a dude.

Put up my hoodie, and people have even been known to cross the sidewalk to avoid passing me.

10. I Don’t Have to Worry About Keeping an Eye on My Drink at Parties and Social Gatherings

Unless it’s at a gay venue where there seem to be some questionable, creepy chickenhawks around, drink safety doesn’t even cross my mind anymore.

11. I’m Not Told by Strangers (Or Anybody Else) to Smile

Not once has it happened since.

Not once.

12. I Don’t Have Strangers Giving Uninvited Opinions About My Body as I Pass By

(Or then expecting me to thank them for it).

Again, not once has this happened in the usual, everyday world.

13. I’m Allowed to Have Body Hair

‘Nuff said.

14. I’m Allowed to Grow Old

And likely will even be considered “handsome” or “sophisticated” because of it.

15. I’m Allowed to Eat Without Being Policed

I’m actually still really damn skinny, but people no longer do things like judge me about what I’m eating or ask if I should be eating it at all.

16. My Abilities Speak Louder Than My Appearances at Work

When I work on-site gigs, I tend to just wear jeans and a t-shirt.

Nobody cares.

It’s all about the quality of my work.

17. The Bulk of Porn Is Made with Me in Mind

Well, the general sense of a guy who has any sexual interest in women.

Even “lesbian” porn is often geared toward the male gaze.

18. Older White Guys Treat Me Like a Best Friend

Especially when I have to wear professional slacks and a tie, I’ve been amazed at how many strangers happily strike up conversation with me in this kind of…fatherly way.

Their smiles are warm, their eyes are bright, and they seem eager to bestow any wisdom upon me that I could ever think to ask.

It’s like I’m automatically their patriarchal protégé or something.

19. I Can Be a Gamer Without Worry of Being Threatened, Insulted, or Demeaned

The gaming industry is still very much a man’s world.

Female characters are frequently sexualized, brutalized, and demeaned when they’re represented at all – right along with the female gamers themselves.

20. My Comfort Comes Before Anyone Else’s

Nobody expects me to sacrifice a thing for them anymore.

21. I Have Significantly Less Sexual Liability

I can now have as much sex with as many people as I want and nobody says boo about it.

22. I’m Allowed to Take Up Space – And Lots of It

If I feel like spreading out on public transportation, nobody – regardless of gender – tells me to move over anymore.

They just act like I have full right to be obnoxious.

(Please note that I’ve only ever done this for experimental purposes.)

23. I’m Not Subject to ‘Soft’ Sexism

Being asked to grab someone their coffee, help decorate for a work party, or help clean up said party is simply a thing of the past.

24. People Think My Successes Have Been Made Purely By My Own Gumption

I’ve worked hard, sure, but I’ve also had plenty of luck and help.

People just don’t question my supposed right to be praised anymore, nor imply that I earned what I earned by playing some sort of card.

My same exact successes are somehow now all me, all hard-earned, and all things that had absolutely nothing to do with the cultural system we have in place.

25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."

everydayfeminism .com/2015/05/ male-privilege-trans-men/
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 9:48pm
 
Very interesting reading Nifty.

Of course, i am unsurprised ... but i think a few on here (should they deign to view it objectively) will be.

I don;t hold out a great amount of hope for the 'objectively' thing though ... just between you and me.
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Reply #3 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 11:07pm
 
Interesting. Taking testosterone removed his paranoia.
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Reply #4 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am
 
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you.
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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 1:15pm
 
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 

And you are abusing this board Honky - your upsetting the dynamic- and you yesterday whined about not wanting women in the tool shed because they would upset the dynamic- I am not posting here anymore until you are gone.
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Reply #6 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:21pm
 
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 


What? Who admitted what? The man writing this said that he has said ridiculous things and people still think he's right ---- what has that got to do with anything?
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:24pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 11:07pm:
Interesting. Taking testosterone removed his paranoia.


What paranoia? You're scrambling to argue against this so you pull stuff out of the air, huh? If anything this highlighted for him the injustices against women in society --- he and other trans people have a view on society will will never understand; they have been treated in this world as both men and women, and their experiences are the closest to truth we will get.

The fact that what he says backs up everything women have been saying on this board is just delicious, isn't it?
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Reply #8 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm
 
The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:21pm:
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 


What? Who admitted what? The man writing this said that he has said ridiculous things and people still think he's right ---- what has that got to do with anything?


lol


She made a list of 25 of the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable - and you still think she's right.

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Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 7:01pm
 
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:21pm:
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 


What? Who admitted what? The man writing this said that he has said ridiculous things and people still think he's right ---- what has that got to do with anything?


lol


She made a list of 25 of the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable - and you still think she's right.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Why do you keep saying "she"?
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Reply #10 - Mar 5th, 2016 at 4:54pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 1:15pm:
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 

And you are abusing this board Honky - your upsetting the dynamic- and you yesterday whined about not wanting women in the tool shed because they would upset the dynamic- I am not posting here anymore until you are gone.


Quick Robin, to the Bat-safe-space.
Holy views the disagree with my own, Batman
Yes Robin, we almost had to consider a different point of view, thank god for our speed and my bat-selective-hearing device.
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Re: Patriarchy as stated by a Trans Man
Reply #11 - Mar 5th, 2016 at 4:58pm
 
The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 3:21pm:
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Quote:
25. I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this."


LOL - she admits she's just trolling you. 


What? Who admitted what? The man writing this said that he has said ridiculous things and people still think he's right ---- what has that got to do with anything?


lol


She made a list of 25 of the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable - and you still think she's right.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Why do you keep saying "she"?


Because she is a "she", and always will be. You can put antlers on a goldfish, but it's still a goldfish.
Or shall we engaged in the delusion and send another person to their suicide? (Rates of suicide among trans people are the same pre as post op, and are only consistently comparable to the suicide rate of Jews under the nazis)
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