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Reply #15 - May 24th, 2015 at 5:08pm
 
rhino wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:10am:
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rhino wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:34pm:
Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 10:10pm:
rhino wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 9:35pm:
I wonder why. Of course they will claim its racism.


You're not racist, Homo. The Muslims are just the first cab off the rank, remember.

put the bottle away. I am racist.


Pleased to meet you.
I am a proud happy racist too.
I dont have any problem at all stating that some cultures are superior to others. theres a reason why nearly all cultures on this planet ape the west.


those of the superior races are quire comfortable with that obvious logical conclusion.

By the way, I ignore karnal's posts.
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Reply #16 - May 24th, 2015 at 5:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 9:59pm:
it sounds like muzzies dislike anti-terror laws ?

We pay for it.
We pay for having to protect us from you lot.

we are the ones who are attacked by your radicals.

your leader can't talk English
your last one couldn't either.

he had compared our women who have been rape victims to bits of meat for a cat.
deport him and his family.

one leader vandalised a mosque and lied to police.
deport him too.


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Why else would muslims think they are not welcome, apart from their own behaviour ?
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Reply #17 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:13pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:41pm:
rhino wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:08am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:41pm:


How do you define "assimilation"? 
Personally, theres a number of things i define it by. One would be when the second generation intermarries, another would be when they stop practising cultural proclivities which are abhhorent to our culture. I could go on but its quite clear to me that these middle eastern Muslims have no intention of assimilating and treat Australia as a cash cow.


Their third and greater generations intermarry, Rhino.  As to what cultural practices do you find so abhorrent that you cannot even tolerate the knowledge they are being practised?  What harm do do they do to others?  We don't hear you going off about the Christians/Jews/Hindus/Buddhists who practise similar "cultural practises", nor the Australians like yourself who do them as well.  So, why Muslims of all people?  Is it because of the media attention which is lacking from all the other groups?   Roll Eyes

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All they want to do is be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, Rhino, in exactly the same way you do. 
Perhaps, but thats not the point, they have come to my country and need to fit in, not the other way around.


How have they failed to "fit in", exactly?  Wearing Hijabs?  Orthodox Jews and Christians wear veils over their heads.  Burqa?  A tiny minority no different to what Christian nuns often wore before Vatican II.   Who cares?  I don't.  Most other Australians don't either.   Who are you to determine what they can or cannot wear?

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So they dress differently, they worship a different religion, who cares?   Some of their numbers act like Wallies and try and kill other people but then, we've had Armenians, Serbs, Croats, Ananda Marga, etc. all do that in the past.    Roll Eyes
Sure, they also cut their female childrens clit out and kill their wives and female children if they dont obey.


Those are criminal offences and rarely, if ever occur in Australian jurisdictions, Rhino.   If you're aware of such offences occurring, report them to the Police!   Why focus on what a tiny minority do and brand the overwhelming, law-abiding, majority with their offences?

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You cant be serious, we have never had anything like the magnitude of the problems with these people that we have had with any other ethnic group.


Not mixed much outside your White, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic cultural group, have you, Rhino?   I've been aware of worse things occurring between different Italian groups, Yugoslav groups, Greek groups, etc., etc.  Yet you only ever pick on Muslims.  Why?  That media spotlight telling you what you should be outraged over again?   Roll Eyes

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Do you know anything about middle eastern culture and what is occurring in this country amongst these people?


I know a great deal (but I admit not nearly enough) about Middle-Eastern culture.   Do you?

I note we've skipped over the questions I asked, Rhino.  You demand something but fail dismally to define it and how it should be measured.  Why?  Was it too hard to be objective about this issue?   Roll Eyes

So much bollocks, so little sense.

Is Australia in the Middle east?

No.

Should people from the Middle East be aware of that?

Yes.

Should Australia conform to their Middle Eastern values or should they conform to Australia's values?

Well, Brain??




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Reply #18 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:16pm
 
Soren wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:41pm:
rhino wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:08am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:41pm:


How do you define "assimilation"? 
Personally, theres a number of things i define it by. One would be when the second generation intermarries, another would be when they stop practising cultural proclivities which are abhhorent to our culture. I could go on but its quite clear to me that these middle eastern Muslims have no intention of assimilating and treat Australia as a cash cow.


Their third and greater generations intermarry, Rhino.  As to what cultural practices do you find so abhorrent that you cannot even tolerate the knowledge they are being practised?  What harm do do they do to others?  We don't hear you going off about the Christians/Jews/Hindus/Buddhists who practise similar "cultural practises", nor the Australians like yourself who do them as well.  So, why Muslims of all people?  Is it because of the media attention which is lacking from all the other groups?   Roll Eyes

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All they want to do is be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, Rhino, in exactly the same way you do. 
Perhaps, but thats not the point, they have come to my country and need to fit in, not the other way around.


How have they failed to "fit in", exactly?  Wearing Hijabs?  Orthodox Jews and Christians wear veils over their heads.  Burqa?  A tiny minority no different to what Christian nuns often wore before Vatican II.   Who cares?  I don't.  Most other Australians don't either.   Who are you to determine what they can or cannot wear?

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So they dress differently, they worship a different religion, who cares?   Some of their numbers act like Wallies and try and kill other people but then, we've had Armenians, Serbs, Croats, Ananda Marga, etc. all do that in the past.    Roll Eyes
Sure, they also cut their female childrens clit out and kill their wives and female children if they dont obey.


Those are criminal offences and rarely, if ever occur in Australian jurisdictions, Rhino.   If you're aware of such offences occurring, report them to the Police!   Why focus on what a tiny minority do and brand the overwhelming, law-abiding, majority with their offences?

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You cant be serious, we have never had anything like the magnitude of the problems with these people that we have had with any other ethnic group.


Not mixed much outside your White, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic cultural group, have you, Rhino?   I've been aware of worse things occurring between different Italian groups, Yugoslav groups, Greek groups, etc., etc.  Yet you only ever pick on Muslims.  Why?  That media spotlight telling you what you should be outraged over again?   Roll Eyes

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Do you know anything about middle eastern culture and what is occurring in this country amongst these people?


I know a great deal (but I admit not nearly enough) about Middle-Eastern culture.   Do you?

I note we've skipped over the questions I asked, Rhino.  You demand something but fail dismally to define it and how it should be measured.  Why?  Was it too hard to be objective about this issue?   Roll Eyes

So much bollocks, so little sense.

Is Australia in the Middle east?

No.

Should people from the Middle East be aware of that?

Yes.

Should Australia conform to their Middle Eastern values or should they conform to Australia's values?

Well, Brain??


The usual Islamophobic response, Soren.  No one is asking Australia, as a nation to conform to anybody's values.  Multiculturalism merely suggests they should be tolerated, as long as they are within the existing legal system, Soren.   Should we tolerate Lutheran, Danish values?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:16pm:
Soren wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:41pm:
rhino wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 12:08am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:41pm:


How do you define "assimilation"? 
Personally, theres a number of things i define it by. One would be when the second generation intermarries, another would be when they stop practising cultural proclivities which are abhhorent to our culture. I could go on but its quite clear to me that these middle eastern Muslims have no intention of assimilating and treat Australia as a cash cow.


Their third and greater generations intermarry, Rhino.  As to what cultural practices do you find so abhorrent that you cannot even tolerate the knowledge they are being practised?  What harm do do they do to others?  We don't hear you going off about the Christians/Jews/Hindus/Buddhists who practise similar "cultural practises", nor the Australians like yourself who do them as well.  So, why Muslims of all people?  Is it because of the media attention which is lacking from all the other groups?   Roll Eyes

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All they want to do is be left alone to live their lives as they see fit, Rhino, in exactly the same way you do. 
Perhaps, but thats not the point, they have come to my country and need to fit in, not the other way around.


How have they failed to "fit in", exactly?  Wearing Hijabs?  Orthodox Jews and Christians wear veils over their heads.  Burqa?  A tiny minority no different to what Christian nuns often wore before Vatican II.   Who cares?  I don't.  Most other Australians don't either.   Who are you to determine what they can or cannot wear?

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So they dress differently, they worship a different religion, who cares?   Some of their numbers act like Wallies and try and kill other people but then, we've had Armenians, Serbs, Croats, Ananda Marga, etc. all do that in the past.    Roll Eyes
Sure, they also cut their female childrens clit out and kill their wives and female children if they dont obey.


Those are criminal offences and rarely, if ever occur in Australian jurisdictions, Rhino.   If you're aware of such offences occurring, report them to the Police!   Why focus on what a tiny minority do and brand the overwhelming, law-abiding, majority with their offences?

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You cant be serious, we have never had anything like the magnitude of the problems with these people that we have had with any other ethnic group.


Not mixed much outside your White, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic cultural group, have you, Rhino?   I've been aware of worse things occurring between different Italian groups, Yugoslav groups, Greek groups, etc., etc.  Yet you only ever pick on Muslims.  Why?  That media spotlight telling you what you should be outraged over again?   Roll Eyes

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Do you know anything about middle eastern culture and what is occurring in this country amongst these people?


I know a great deal (but I admit not nearly enough) about Middle-Eastern culture.   Do you?

I note we've skipped over the questions I asked, Rhino.  You demand something but fail dismally to define it and how it should be measured.  Why?  Was it too hard to be objective about this issue?   Roll Eyes

So much bollocks, so little sense.

Is Australia in the Middle east?

No.

Should people from the Middle East be aware of that?

Yes.

Should Australia conform to their Middle Eastern values or should they conform to Australia's values?

Well, Brain??


The usual Islamophobic response, Soren.  No one is asking Australia, as a nation to conform to anybody's values.  Multiculturalism merely suggests they should be tolerated, as long as they are within the existing legal system, Soren.   Should we tolerate Lutheran, Danish values?   Roll Eyes
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia. Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.
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Reply #20 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm
 
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:27pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
I don't have to offend anybody. Sections of the muslim community are offending themselves. The more terrorism,shootings, rape , car re-birthing and ISIS recruits there are the more people who are thinking like me. I can't help it if muslims are basket cases.
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Reply #22 - May 24th, 2015 at 8:34pm
 
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
I don't have to offend anybody. Sections of the muslim community are offending themselves. The more terrorism,shootings, rape , car re-birthing and ISIS recruits there are the more people who are thinking like me. I can't help it if muslims are basket cases.


I think it is over.  Islam has made itself an enemy, its own intolerance is being met with intolerance in turn.  It has demonstrated itself to be an unwanted cuckoo in the nest of societies that took it in to shelter it.  Islam cannot even play nice with itself. 

Ungrateful, hateful and dictatorial and in turn the west will become more intolerant and reject it.  We are in for a long ride.
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Reply #23 - May 24th, 2015 at 9:03pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
I don't have to offend anybody. Sections of the muslim community are offending themselves. The more terrorism,shootings, rape , car re-birthing and ISIS recruits there are the more people who are thinking like me. I can't help it if muslims are basket cases.


I think it is over.  Islam has made itself an enemy, its own intolerance is being met with intolerance in turn.  It has demonstrated itself to be an unwanted cuckoo in the nest of societies that took it in to shelter it.  Islam cannot even play nice with itself. 

Ungrateful, hateful and dictatorial and in turn the west will become more intolerant and reject it.  We are in for a long ride. 



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..........Islam has made itself an enemy, its own intolerance is being met with intolerance in turn....


yes, this is the same the world over.
Via chatsites like this the truth of islam the deathcult is being exposed
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Reply #24 - May 24th, 2015 at 10:18pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
Secret Wars wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
I don't have to offend anybody. Sections of the muslim community are offending themselves. The more terrorism,shootings, rape , car re-birthing and ISIS recruits there are the more people who are thinking like me. I can't help it if muslims are basket cases.


I think it is over.  Islam has made itself an enemy, its own intolerance is being met with intolerance in turn.  It has demonstrated itself to be an unwanted cuckoo in the nest of societies that took it in to shelter it.  Islam cannot even play nice with itself. 

Ungrateful, hateful and dictatorial and in turn the west will become more intolerant and reject it.  We are in for a long ride. 



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..........Islam has made itself an enemy, its own intolerance is being met with intolerance in turn....


yes, this is the same the world over.
Via chatsites like this the truth of islam the deathcult is being exposed



I see it quite differently. I see that on forums like this, the lies of Islamophobes are being directly challenged.

Funny thing, perspective.
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Reply #25 - May 24th, 2015 at 11:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

The usual Islamophobic response, Soren.  No one is asking Australia, as a nation to conform to anybody's values.  Multiculturalism merely suggests they should be tolerated, as long as they are within the existing legal system, Soren.   Should we tolerate Lutheran, Danish values?   Roll Eyes

Sure we are. Even schools no longer say the lords prayer, children are not allowed to say merry Chrismas, If I walk done the street with my entire face covered I will be stopped , questioned by the cops and told to remove it.they wouldnt dare do that to a Muslim female wearing the Burqa. I am not allowed to go into a bank, service station or like institution with my face covered, Muslim women are exempt from this. I have no choice with many food items which are Halal certified even though I dont require it. Do I need to go on? My culture is under seige Brian, and Quislings like you are eroding  the walls, but people are catching on. theres a big backlash now, one which can make or break the government at the next election. The bottom line is, we do not want any more Islamic immigration into this country, they are the worst migrants out of the lot and most Australians dont want them.
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Reply #26 - May 24th, 2015 at 11:55pm
 
mothra wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

I see it quite differently. I see that on forums like this, the lies of Islamophobes are being directly challenged.

Funny thing, perspective.
And the ironic thing is, for you anyway. To a Muslim man you are a 2nd class human, nothing more than property without basic human rights. You are basically trying to talk yourself into servitude.
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Reply #27 - May 24th, 2015 at 11:59pm
 
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:22pm:
double plus good wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
They never  asked anybody if we wanted muslims in Australia.


The politicians stood for re-election.  They were (for the most part) re-elected.  QED.

Matty, don't you think it's time you stopped this shenanigans?   Roll Eyes

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Because we were never asked we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want to.


Except you must remain law-abiding, now mustn't you, Matty?  And that includes section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  Otherwise you'd be proposing to break the law and offend people, now wouldn't you?    Roll Eyes
I don't have to offend anybody. Sections of the muslim community are offending themselves. The more terrorism,shootings, rape , car re-birthing and ISIS recruits there are the more people who are thinking like me. I can't help it if muslims are basket cases.


Your Islamophobia is showing again, Matty.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - May 25th, 2015 at 12:01am
 
mothra wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
I see it quite differently. I see that on forums like this, the lies of Islamophobes are being directly challenged.

Funny thing, perspective.


Yes, its interesting how one side seems to consider intolerance and hatred is a useful virtue.  Well said, Mothra.
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Reply #29 - May 25th, 2015 at 12:05am
 
rhino wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 11:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

The usual Islamophobic response, Soren.  No one is asking Australia, as a nation to conform to anybody's values.  Multiculturalism merely suggests they should be tolerated, as long as they are within the existing legal system, Soren.   Should we tolerate Lutheran, Danish values?   Roll Eyes

Sure we are. Even schools no longer say the lords prayer, children are not allowed to say merry Chrismas, If I walk done the street with my entire face covered I will be stopped , questioned by the cops and told to remove it.they wouldnt dare do that to a Muslim female wearing the Burqa. I am not allowed to go into a bank, service station or like institution with my face covered, Muslim women are exempt from this. I have no choice with many food items which are Halal certified even though I dont require it. Do I need to go on? My culture is under seige Brian, and Quislings like you are eroding  the walls, but people are catching on. theres a big backlash now, one which can make or break the government at the next election. The bottom line is, we do not want any more Islamic immigration into this country, they are the worst migrants out of the lot and most Australians dont want them.



Yes, being told you have to tolerate peoples' differences, to allow them to dress how they see fit, is really putting your intolerant Anglo-Saxon/Celtic Settlers' intolerant culture under siege, Rhino.   I suppose you'd prefer to be able to attack Muslims on sight, to smash the windows of their businesses and houses, to scream obscenities at them, all because you can't purchase a non-Halal certified jar of Vegemite?   Life is tough for you, isn't it?    Roll Eyes
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