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Reply #90 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

what if?

exactly. which is why making a blanket concrete statement like this is stupid.
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"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

That "blanket concrete statement is ironclad. There are no exceptions.

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Reply #91 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:12pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

what if?

exactly. which is why making a blanket concrete statement like this is stupid.
Quote:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

That "blanket concrete statement is ironclad. There are no exceptions.

then your child dies.

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Reply #92 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

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Reply #93 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:14pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:12pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

what if?

exactly. which is why making a blanket concrete statement like this is stupid.
Quote:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it

against your will

is rape."

That "blanket concrete statement is ironclad. There are no exceptions.

then your child dies.

My children are fine, thanks for asking.

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Re: Will you vaccinate or not?
Reply #94 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:16pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:14pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:12pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

what if?

exactly. which is why making a blanket concrete statement like this is stupid.
Quote:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it

against your will

is rape."

That "blanket concrete statement is ironclad. There are no exceptions.

then your child dies.

My children are fine, thanks for asking.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #95 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

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Reply #96 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:14pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:12pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

what if?

exactly. which is why making a blanket concrete statement like this is stupid.
Quote:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it

against your will

is rape."

That "blanket concrete statement is ironclad. There are no exceptions.

then your child dies.

My children are fine, thanks for asking.

whoosh

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Reply #97 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:20pm

You read my mind ralphie.

Your brand of "any number will do" ignorance was bad enough, then there was gizmo with his unbelievable "nar that well documented incident never happened" wilful blindness, now I've got homo doing the ol' "if you don't vaccinate your child WILL die" routine. It's every shade of stupid under the sun.

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Reply #99 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

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Reply #100 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:26pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:21pm:

you had your numbers ... not my fault they made you look foolish. You don't get to ignore the numbers just because you don't like them.

Put up relevant and correct numbers. This has been explained to you already, ralph. I even spoonfed you instructions on what you needed to do to establish even the most basic premise of your case.

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Reply #101 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:30pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

How do the parents come into it? Read the quote again.

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Reply #102 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:35pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:30pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

How do the parents come into it? Read the quote again.

smh...I don't have a problem with parents and legal guardians giving consent where it cannot otherwise be obtained. That concept has long been accepted, the problem I have is with the right of consent being taken away from them.

So with that rather obvious clarification, back on track: Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

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Reply #103 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:38pm

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:35pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:30pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

How do the parents come into it? Read the quote again.

smh...I don't have a problem with parents and legal guardians giving consent where it cannot otherwise be obtained, consider it a proxy, the problem I have is with the right of consent being taken away from them.

So with that rather obvious clarification, back on track: Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

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Reply #104 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:42pm

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:38pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:35pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:30pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04pm:

... wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 2:48pm:

However, I agree with him 100% on this:

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

OK. Your child has a serious accident and needs blood. Happy to let your child die? idiot.

It's not against your will if you consent to it. Durrr.

Your child does not consent, you know how 7 year olds are, bit difficult at times.

Do they consent to having vaccinations?

I think possibly, just possibly they are getting vaccinated not because they themselves choose to do so but because mummy and daddy have decided its the right thing, just like the blood transfusion that you child didnt get and died from because of inability to give consent. Guess your kids never eat their vegies eh? Or take any medication that they dont want.

Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

How do the parents come into it? Read the quote again.

smh...I don't have a problem with parents and legal guardians giving consent where it cannot otherwise be obtained, consider it a proxy, the problem I have is with the right of consent being taken away from them.

So with that rather obvious clarification, back on track: Whats to say the parents would object to a blood transfusion?

"Sovereignty of your body is inviolable. Forcing something into it against your will is rape."

Correct.

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