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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #30 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:10pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 1:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:44pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:39pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
Look at her choice of partner. should we be surprised.



Indeed.

Never trust a man in a hat.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.



Oh, right.

You were being an irrational bigot.

My bad.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.
Nothing irrational about that statement.



Just bigoted?


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Reply #31 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 1:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:44pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:39pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
Look at her choice of partner. should we be surprised.



Indeed.

Never trust a man in a hat.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.



Oh, right.

You were being an irrational bigot.

My bad.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.
Nothing irrational about that statement.



Just bigoted?



since the statement doesnt display intolerance towards other peoples  opinions, then no.
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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #32 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:54pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 1:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:44pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:39pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
Look at her choice of partner. should we be surprised.



Indeed.

Never trust a man in a hat.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.



Oh, right.

You were being an irrational bigot.

My bad.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.
Nothing irrational about that statement.



Just bigoted?



since the statement doesnt display intolerance towards other peoples  opinions, then no.



"utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own."

Bigot.

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #33 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 3:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:54pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 1:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:44pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:39pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
Look at her choice of partner. should we be surprised.



Indeed.

Never trust a man in a hat.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.



Oh, right.

You were being an irrational bigot.

My bad.

Nothing to with hats, all to do with the cultural propensity for domestic violence amongst pacific islanders.
Nothing irrational about that statement.



Just bigoted?



since the statement doesnt display intolerance towards other peoples  opinions, then no.



"utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own."

Bigot.

still wrong. Stating the truth isnt bigotry.
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Reply #34 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:05pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 3:03pm:
still wrong. Stating the truth isnt bigotry.



Here's your chance to substantiate your claim, bigot.

Show us the "truth".


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Reply #35 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 3:03pm:
still wrong. Stating the truth isnt bigotry.



Here's your chance to substantiate your claim, bigot.

Show us the "truth".


You are all for womans rights arent you? Why do you support violence against women?
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Between 40 and 70% of women across the Pacific Islands region experience gendered violence from intimate partners and family across their lifetimes.

Despite 30 years of aid programming in the region, and the best efforts of local and international gender advocates, these levels seem to have remained constant. By some indications they may in fact be rising. If gender violence persists in the region as an epidemic which has not responded to current treatment, this is because the relationship between abuse and women’s disempowerment has not been well understood.

http://theconversation.com/pacific-islands-beset-by-gender-violence-but-why-13150

Only an idiot confuses the truth for bigotry.
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Reply #36 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:30pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:28pm:
Why do you support violence against women?



Have you stopped beating your wife?

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Reply #37 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm
 
white flag accepted.
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Reply #38 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:32pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
white flag accepted.



So, you haven't stopped?

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Reply #39 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:32pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
white flag accepted.



So, you haven't stopped?

Kicking your arse? Obviously not. All you had to do was look up domestic  violence stats for Pacific islanders and you wouldnt have looked so stupid.
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Reply #40 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 7:20pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:32pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
white flag accepted.



So, you haven't stopped?



Obviously not.




Perhaps you should.

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Reply #41 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 8:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 7:20pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:32pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
white flag accepted.



So, you haven't stopped?



Obviously not.




Perhaps you should.


sorry. Cant stop kicking your arse. maybe if you didnt lead with your jaw every time. Cheesy
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Reply #42 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 8:37am
 
Oi you lot... can we get back to domestic violence?

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Reply #43 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 4:07pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 8:37am:
Oi you lot... can we get back to domestic violence?




No need to ask Rhino twice.

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Reply #44 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 8:47pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 12:36pm:
Agnes wrote on Apr 17th, 2015 at 10:40pm:
Mutual respect should be taught by parents, but it will take a long time before the issue of DV is taken seriously by the law and society, you hear it all the time women saying she drove him to it, which essentially excuses the man- if women cant even get her own gender to stand with her then what hope is there- in many cases the female does annoy the living hell out of her partner thinking her gender protects her from any repercussions that may come her way were she born man in the same situation. So some fem. push the issue to the limit and then he snaps- yes its true, There are also men who just enjoy feeling the power of beating someone defenseless and you will also find they also abuse children. They cannot face up to a man- deep down they are cowardly bullies. Most women have known some form of violence from men, verbal and physical. Until mutual respect is taught in the home and at school- this problem will never go away.

There is no society in the world where women are truly free, the male is not born free by virtue of being born a man either- he is bound by a form of slavery that the female ( in a perfect society ) isnt-and many times he doesn't want to nor can he live up to the restraints placed on him..living the dream, wife child and home is a  huge burden that is mostly carried by the male- he is expected to perform get on in the world and never question his role-




ag.. all we do is make more and more excuses....for BAD....

do we teach males to respect females of EVERY AGE???

do we teach females to EXPECT respect from males of ALL AGES????

of course we dont lets just teach them to BLAME someone or something else...

to give respect earns respect...

we seem to have turned a blind eye to what starts off as the usual bully boy stuff...

and I WANT IT and I WANT IT "NOW" syndrome

that appears to have turned into a

if I cant have you no one else will have you syndrome...

I teach  my grandkids.. that life will have lots of disappointments in it.. get used to it....we soon forget what is was all about...try to look on it as the best thing that could have happened...

jealousy and control seem to have taken over a huge amount of peoples lives...they are not happy even if they are in possession...

there is no ONE answer....but I do believe we should all be made to answer for the choices we make.. and that starts at a very young age...what is the point of a child having counselling without the parents also.. they are the ones in charge and are usually part of the cause...yet they go about their business as if someone else will solve their problem child..

someone worked out "smacking children doesnt work"..

has someone worked out.. that NOT SMACKING THEM DOESNT WORK EITHER????

are we making it easier for children of all ages to do the wrong thing over and over?... Sad

Society has changed and quick /instant gratification seems to be the way it is now, for the majority- society do turn a blind eye to the social degradedation of women and it has been normalised, even by women themselves, through media and internet- porn and sexually negatively charged video clips- young pp quickly learn/think that is how society is, and if that is the only info that is being fed to them, no one is telling them that "no that is not really how men should treat or talk about women" then that narrative will stick and never be challenged unless those who clearly see the wrong are able to speak out and correct and challenge these ideas, 2 sides of a coin must be presented to enable pp to decide which one they want to  internalise and make a considered opinion right or worng. That is how  the narrative becomes entrenched, bit by bit, respect is lost incrementally and insidiously- the whole of society see's it as an inevitable  change because everyone believes that they , as individuals, cant make any difference by speaking up and challenging the declining moral standard, and it does come down to just that, that they are bit one lost voice. Once you dehumanise anyone, male or female , that is the beginning of the end. Majority of pp are sheep, they do as others do and say- so to easy for this to happen. I think your right about the smack thing, unless a parent is clearly identified as a child abuser then the state should stay out of the temptation to legislate the way we parent, parenting is a natural instinct.  Take away a parents right to parent is part of the moral decline that leads to abuse and disrespect and disregard of the way females are treated in a our society because it teaches kids that society is consequence free- until they find out for themselves and land in jail or worse.

The next step up from being verbally violent is physical violence- so in this case words matter- a violent verbal abuser is only a heart beat away from becoming a physical abuser/ killer.
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