Australian Politics Forum - Domestic Violence

Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Domestic Violence Apr 15^th, 2015 at 4:52pm This year, so far, we have already had 30+ young females MURDERED ... It is only mid-April. Some females murdered were by those males whom they should trust to care for them. Several murders were committed by supposedly "strangers". WHY?
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Reply #1 - Apr 15^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

Intimate partner violence is the most common type of violence against women, affecting 30 per cent of women worldwide, according to the 2013 World Health Organization report Global and regional estimates of violence against women: Prevalence and health effects of intimate partner violence and non-partner sexual violence.

And Australia is not immune.

Violence against women is a serious problem in Australia where:

Over 12 months, on average, one woman is killed every week as a result of intimate partner violence.

A woman is most likely to be killed by her male partner in her home.

Domestic and family violence is the principle cause of homelessness for women and their children.

Intimate partner violence is the leading contributor to death, disability and ill-health in Australian women aged 15-44.

One in three women have experienced physical and/or sexual violence perpetrated by someone known to them.

One in four children are exposed to domestic violence, which is a recognised form of child abuse.

The cost of violence against women to the Australian economy is estimated to rise to $15.6 billion per annum.

http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/white-ribbon-importance

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #2 - Apr 16^th, 2015 at 5:26pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 15^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

This year, so far, we have already had 30+ young females MURDERED ... It is only mid-April. Some females murdered were by those males whom they should trust to care for them. Several murders were committed by supposedly "strangers".

WHY?

I think the law has a lot to answer for.

Then the counterargument is the tired line of the coppers being under-resourced to which I would say it is more than the coppers at fault here. The cops can only do so much as they are only part of a system.

The sexualisation of women at increasingly younger age is of course a central theme: not too distant from that is the photo-shopping and enhancements of magazine covers and then there is of course pornography...

Women get leered at on the street in the most innocent of everday exchanges and attitude is always of paramount importance. I think if a society were to become lazy toward the treatment of its women
that would be of no small consequence!

Meaning, Chivalry plays its role and only real men can deliver the required protection by speaking up when they see a bad situation develop.

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #3 - Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 5:26pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 15^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

This year, so far, we have already had 30+ young females MURDERED ... It is only mid-April. Some females murdered were by those males whom they should trust to care for them. Several murders were committed by supposedly "strangers".

WHY?

I think the law has a lot to answer for.

Then the counterargument is the tired line of the coppers being under-resourced to which I would say it is more than the coppers at fault here. The cops can only do so much as they are only part of a system.

Why are you blaming the Police? Men should be in control of their own emotions and stop thinking that they OWN the wife/girlfriend and can smack her around if she gets "out of control".

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The sexualisation of women at increasingly younger age is of course a central theme: not too distant from that is the photo-shopping and enhancements of magazine covers and then there is of course pornography...

Again, you are blaming the female for getting herself murdered!

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Women get leered at on the street in the most innocent of everday exchanges and attitude is always of paramount importance. I think if a society were to become lazy toward the treatment of its women
that would be of no small consequence!

Wolf whistles from building sites is nothing. It has always been like that. It's the husband/partner/boyfriend who is murdering their loved ones ...

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Meaning, Chivalry plays its role and only real men can deliver the required protection by speaking up when they see a bad situation develop.

Mothers and Fathers should be teaching their sons that they should NEVER raise a hand at a woman. Some of these males that kill their partners, etc. have been brought up to think it is normal to give the Old Girl a slap if she doesn't do as she is told.

Attitudes have to change.

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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: Domestic Violence Reply #4 - Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:25pm Neferti wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm: ... Attitudes have to change. How true! Comments?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95261 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Domestic Violence Reply #5 - Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:36pm The answer is to bring back public hanging for murderers.
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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #6 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:23pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

... Attitudes have to change.

How true!
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I am not a feminist, far from it.

Have you ever been bashed up by your wife/girlfriend, Father/Mother?

Who loses it and lashes out in anger because they can't control another person?

Who feels "depressed" because they can't control their temper and their "partner" kicks them out?

Who gets drunk after an argument then comes home and "rapes" his wife/partner out of spite?

Who gets their tits in a tangle when the wife/partner kicks him out because he is abusive, goes to the Cops and gets a DVO and then he "fixes her"?

Men NEED to realise that they do NOT own their wife/partner, nor their children.

I many cases, I blame these bloke's MOTHERS.

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #7 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

The answer is to bring back public hanging for murderers.

You have no idea, do you? Already 30 young women MURDERED by somebody they knew and it is only mid-April.

What do you think should happen? Females should do something to become as physically strong as men? So they can "defend" themselves?

Do you have a daughter/daughters? If you did you would be less flippant. Mate!

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Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

Mothers and Fathers should be teaching their sons that they should NEVER raise a hand at a woman.

Why? Ive seen more than a few violent and manipulative females who take advantage of idiots who think its the right thing never to hit a girl. What needs to be taught is respect for everybody, male or female regardless.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Domestic Violence Reply #9 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:19pm Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:28pm: What do you think should happen? Females should do something to become as physically strong as men? So they can "defend" themselves? Why? There's plenty of weak dudes who do just fine. Maybe they just watch how they behave, so they don't have people wanting to smash them.
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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #10 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:47pm

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

Mothers and Fathers should be teaching their sons that they should NEVER raise a hand at a woman.

Why? Ive seen more than a few violent and manipulative females who take advantage of idiots who think its the right thing never to hit a girl. What needs to be taught is respect for everybody, male or female regardless.

Well, if you mix with the Bogan crowd, I have nothing else to say. Slapping your "partner" around sounds like it is a normal occurrence in your neighbourhood. How many murders have happened around there, so far this year?

NORMAL males don't go around bashing up females. Nor do NORMAL females bash up their males.

NORMAL males don't bash their mates, brothers, workmates up either.

PARENTS need to instill in their children (male and female) that physical abuse is NOT the way to settle an argument.

We already have a LAW that anybody caught on CCTV, just smacking their little 2 year old WILL be ARRESTED and charged.

DVOs are useless ...... that just antagonises the perpetrator.

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #11 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

... wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

What do you think should happen? Females should do something to become as physically strong as men? So they can "defend" themselves?

Why? There's plenty of weak dudes who do just fine. Maybe they just watch how they behave, so they don't have people wanting to smash them.

So you're saying that should a female ANNOY you it is OK to smack them one?

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #12 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:49pm:

... wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

What do you think should happen? Females should do something to become as physically strong as men? So they can "defend" themselves?

Why? There's plenty of weak dudes who do just fine. Maybe they just watch how they behave, so they don't have people wanting to smash them.

So you're saying that should a female ANNOY you it is OK to smack them one?

Little kids know that bad things can happen when you relentlessly hector people - maybe it's time we held grown women to the same standard.

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Re: Domestic Violence
Reply #13 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:43pm

... wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:49pm:

... wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

What do you think should happen? Females should do something to become as physically strong as men? So they can "defend" themselves?

Why? There's plenty of weak dudes who do just fine. Maybe they just watch how they behave, so they don't have people wanting to smash them.

So you're saying that should a female ANNOY you it is OK to smack them one?

Little kids know that bad things can happen when you relentlessly hector people - maybe it's time we held grown women to the same standard.

That is a valid point, Mr Honky. Some women (many are probably among those who complain about domestic violence) seem to believe that they are totally free to incessantly abuse the living shite out of their male partner...and somehow expect that he has a limitless tolerance level.

I see it on an almost daily basis when I'm driving the Cab.

The way some women 'talk' to their male partner is skin crawling. Many has been the time I have intervened and told the woman to shut up with the language, or get out and walk.

The blokes were just sitting there, copping it.

You see it in public places....well....I do every day. A banshee bitch abusing in language even a wharfie of old would never be proud of.

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Reply #14 - Apr 17^th, 2015 at 10:40pm

Mutual respect should be taught by parents, but it will take a long time before the issue of DV is taken seriously by the law and society, you hear it all the time women saying she drove him to it, which essentially excuses the man- if women cant even get her own gender to stand with her then what hope is there- in many cases the female does annoy the living hell out of her partner thinking her gender protects her from any repercussions that may come her way were she born man in the same situation. So some fem. push the issue to the limit and then he snaps- yes its true, There are also men who just enjoy feeling the power of beating someone defenseless and you will also find they also abuse children. They cannot face up to a man- deep down they are cowardly bullies. Most women have known some form of violence from men, verbal and physical. Until mutual respect is taught in the home and at school- this problem will never go away.

There is no society in the world where women are truly free, the male is not born free by virtue of being born a man either- he is bound by a form of slavery that the female ( in a perfect society ) isnt-and many times he doesn't want to nor can he live up to the restraints placed on him..living the dream, wife child and home is a huge burden that is mostly carried by the male- he is expected to perform get on in the world and never question his role-

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