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Reply #15 - Apr 16th, 2015 at 9:00pm
 

Found a very good site for the auto fluid change and flush !

http://hubpages.com/hub/Toyota-Camry-5SFE-ATF-Transmission-Fluid-Change
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Reply #16 - Apr 17th, 2015 at 10:58pm
 
if its not broke...

DON'T FIX IT....

leave the dam thing alone...

don't do engine services unless they've done the kilometres... 10,000 ...

if its using oil over the period of 10K then drop it back to 8K
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Reply #17 - Apr 18th, 2015 at 1:10am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
taking a car to a garage is so time consuming.
then they charge 'whatever they want' .

I am thinking take it to them every 2 - 3 years for a general check over/new brakes/whatever.



You're on the right track.

Changing the oil every 6 months is just ridiculous.

If you just drive to work, and down to Grandma's on the weekend, every 12 to 18 months is fine.

We over service our cars.


My every day car is only supposed to have an oil change every 12 months, which I believe is a fairly common interval between changes these days.  As it's under warranty, I will be adhering to the scheduled service intervals.

My other car is supposed to have the oil changed every 3,000 miles (no time limit is specified) - which probably would equate to a year or two's use at least.  Offhand, I cannot remember when it was changed last.

I don't do the oil changes myself, mainly because it is potentially a messy job and my house has a short, paved driveway and the garage is attached to the house.
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Reply #18 - Apr 18th, 2015 at 5:18pm
 
It's all done. All worked out ok.
Was a bigger job than the '10 minute auto fluid change' as seen on the clip.

A few interesting pts.

I checked the fluid level on the dipstick before I begun.
It was too high I thought.
Got the drain plug out and caught the old brown fluid.
Manual said 3.4 L should come out, I measured what came out, it was 4.3 L.
So there was too much in it.

Put drain plug back in, checked level on dipstick. Good, it was empty, I had drained the right stuff.
Refilled it with 3L of auto fluid. It was a bit low, put 400 ml more in, it was right.

This changes only 1/2 the fluid in the auto. Does not do the radiator or torque converter.
In a car that has had a few kms, and the fluid is not good it is safer to just change 1/2 now. 1/2 again in 6 months time.

All the seals are used to the fluid that has been in there for the past 5+ years and 100,000+ kms.
If you change 100% of the fluid it may find the change too much and leak from a seal.
If you change 50% now it should be ok with that.

It's still a good improvement on what was there.
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Reply #19 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 11:34am
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 5:49pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 5:32pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 4:28pm:
Thanks.
Seems my camry has a drain plug.
Might just try draining it from there for the first time.

If it's not got debris in it, the filter should be ok.
Changing the fluid will be good for it.

The auto still works perfectly. Which is how I like things to go Smiley


If you keep the auto oil cherry red and change it before it turns brown the auto will last nearly forever.
When it turns brown it's closer to varnish than oil which causes problems.

The pan has to come off to change the filter,it's easy first year apprentices don't even stuff that up.



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.........change it before it turns brown the auto will last nearly forever....


exactly what I want to happen.
It's awkward for me as I don't have a pit and don't want ramps.
I drive on hardwood planks to raise the car a few inches


Get y'self a trolley jack and a couple of axle stands.
Never get under a car only held up by a jack
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Damned good point, which can't be highlighted enough.

And do NOT be tempted into thinking that a stack of bricks or similar
is a substitute for a good set of stands. It's not, and it WILL collapse.

Also, always make sure the stands are on a hard level surface, not on
the lawn or on a slope.

Diff oil does not need to be changed as a rule, BUT the level does need
to be checked occasionally. There is no dip-stick, the accepted procedure
is to remove the filler plug and insert your little finger into the hole and
point it at the oil. If there is oil on your finger when you remove it, the
level is OK. It needs to be approx. ½" below the level of the plug.
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Reply #20 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 11:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
taking a car to a garage is so time consuming.
then they charge 'whatever they want' .

I am thinking take it to them every 2 - 3 years for a general check over/new brakes/whatever.



You're on the right track.

Changing the oil every 6 months is just ridiculous.

If you just drive to work, and down to Grandma's on the weekend, every 12 to 18 months is fine.


We over service our cars.



Well, yes and no.

Modern oils can extend the time/distance between oil-changes, but can't abolish the need
altogether. Years ago, changing oil every 1500 miles was common, AND you'd also have to
change grades of oil depending on whether it was summer or winter. Nowadays changing
needs to be no-where near as frequent, but must still be done, for a number of reasons.

Firstly, oil will deteriorate and absorb moisture and impurities much quicker on lots of short
journeys than it will on several longer ones for the same total distance travelled. So more
frequent changes are indicated, not less frequent.

Secondly, oil does deteriorate over time (although not so much modern synthetics with all
the additives) which is why manufacturers will say something like 'Change the oil at 6,000
miles or 6 months, whichever occurs first'.

Owners of 'performance' and race cars will, of course, change their oil much more frequently
and will also tend to use top-quality oils, but this is false economy in a high-mileage bomb.

Somewhat outside the scope of this discussion, but worth mentioning, is that some oils
(such as brake-fluid) are hygroscopic (meaning they absorb water from the atmosphere)
and so need to be changed occasionally for this reason. Ever dismantled a brake and won-
dered how the hell rust could form inside a sealed system full of oil? That's how.
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Reply #21 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 12:25pm
 
I've got a Toyota Commuter in my fleet thats done over 600,000 kilometres. ..

Same gearbox oil
Same diff oil
Same brake fluid

Take it from the Mechanic. ... if you are changing these fluids every 6 months then you have more money than brains...
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Reply #22 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 4:35pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
I've got a Toyota Commuter in my fleet thats done over 600,000 kilometres. ..

Same gearbox oil
Same diff oil
Same brake fluid

Take it from the Mechanic. ... if you are changing these fluids every 6 months then you have more money than brains...


That's amazingly good.
I've had a few Toyotas and they have been faultless cars.

I guess the gearbox/diff/brake areas don't have the same heat applied as the engine oil does.
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Reply #23 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 6:21pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
I've got a Toyota Commuter in my fleet thats done over 600,000 kilometres. ..

Same gearbox oil
Same diff oil
Same brake fluid

Take it from the Mechanic. ... if you are changing these fluids every 6 months then you have more money than brains...


And apart from engine oil, as indicated in my previous comments, I would generally have to agree.
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Reply #24 - Apr 27th, 2015 at 12:22pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 4:35pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
I've got a Toyota Commuter in my fleet thats done over 600,000 kilometres. ..

Same gearbox oil
Same diff oil
Same brake fluid

Take it from the Mechanic. ... if you are changing these fluids every 6 months then you have more money than brains...


That's amazingly good.
I've had a few Toyotas and they have been faultless cars.

I guess the gearbox/diff/brake areas don't have the same heat applied as the engine oil does.


You get blow by past the piston rings with combustion which contaminates the oil, the black carbon line below the piston rings on the piston proves this happens,with LPG the oil lasts a bit longer.

As for brake fluid you don't have to change all of it, I just bleed off what is in the caliper until clean fluid comes out,it absorbs water and the brake pistons will corrode if not done.
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Reply #25 - Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:53am
 
baron - do you let it dribble out by gravity or have someone else there to push the brake pedal down ?

Brake fluid may be my next game, if it's easy looking.
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Reply #26 - May 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm
 

Did the auto fluid flush this arvo.


All went well and according to how it should go.
Measuring the amount of fluid I drained out was important.
Watching it on utube first was very helpful.

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Reply #27 - May 2nd, 2015 at 7:00pm
 
I have a Mercedes A160 which is a clutchless manual and I have a problem.

It's started revving by itself all of a sudden. It doesn't matter if I'm idling or in gear - it just revs to about 3000 then drops back to normal. After I turn the car off, there's a soft clicking sound. This has only been happening today. Could it have something to do with the big rain we had here yesterday?

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Reply #28 - May 2nd, 2015 at 9:11pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 2nd, 2015 at 7:00pm:
I have a Mercedes A160 which is a clutchless manual and I have a problem.

It's started revving by itself all of a sudden. It doesn't matter if I'm idling or in gear - it just revs to about 3000 then drops back to normal. After I turn the car off, there's a soft clicking sound. This has only been happening today. Could it have something to do with the big rain we had here yesterday?



That's  a scary one.

Found this on google for you

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like john said change the engine harness. Had the same problem last year and worked like a charm.

Read more: http://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/454900-car-revving-up-down-no-throttle-response-po120.html#ixzz3Yyisyanx


http://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/454900-car-revving-up-down-no-throttle-re...

Perhaps ring an auto electrician. Tell them the story and what you have googled.

For them to diagnose it is expensive and does not solve the problem.
For them to 'supply and fit an engine harness' is expensive and may solve the problem.

Good luck.
I have got into he habit of 'googling' or 'utubing' for problems like this.
Very handy
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Reply #29 - May 2nd, 2015 at 9:16pm
 

theres a few other causes for it there.

maybe moisture got in somewhere with the rain.
Can you leave it in the back yard when the sun is out tomorrow with the bonnet, doors and boot open and let it all 'dry out' for 3 hours ?
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