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Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm

Need job advice

You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours.

Wait until Lisa comes on, she'll have the good advice you're waiting for, she's our very own 'wonder woman', Jill of all trades, involved in HR and all sorts of other things.....fair dinkum mate, you'll see.

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Reply #16 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

pete98 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:05pm:

I don't know if this is the wrong place to post this, but if it is then apologies.

Okay, so I'm really struggling to find a job at the moment. I'm still in school and I've been applying to new places weekly, sometimes daily, for over six months now and I've I haven't gotten anything.

I've been applying to places such as Coles, IGA, JB-HI-FI, EB Games, Pizza Hut, Dominoes, and other smaller business and I get turned away every time.

I don't have much on my resume. Some work experience at my dads business and some volunteer work is it. However, some employers have told me straight out that my lack of experience isn't a problem (I mean, who needs experience to stack shelves?) but it's just that they're not hiring.

I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. Is it really that hard for a teenager to get a job nowadays?

Advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Send your resume back to your dad's business.

You can always keep working for him. That way your resume won't go stale.

Don't forget to continue studying (after you complete your schooling).

All the best

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Reply #17 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Need job advice

You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours.

Wait until Lisa comes on, she'll have the good advice you're waiting for, she's our very own 'wonder woman', Jill of all trades, involved in HR and all sorts of other things.....fair dinkum mate, you'll see.

you have a thread with a young person asking for help, and you still couldn't resist having a cheap shot at lisa? And you have the hide to lecture others on how they behave? Cheesy

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Reply #18 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

pete98 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

What area are you in?

sending in application forms, letters etc doesn't really work ...

you need to get out and knock on doors, all sorts of doors. Even in places where you don't know what they do or sell ... as long as you're keen, they'll be willing to train you. And don't let secretaries fob you off ... ask that you speak to the managers

I live in Melbourne. I'm just confused because all my mates have got jobs by sending in resumes. I don't know if there's something about me that people don't like the look of or what.

I've tried going to lots of small businesses and asking if they would be willing to hire me and that hasn't worked. A fair few of them have been quite rude about it too. I guess I'll just keep trying that.

Thank you.

keep trying, don't lose heart, I spent several years on the dole when i left school because no one would hire me. I ended up taking a pizza delivery job at night until I found something else.

remember, it's all about attitude, if you go in there looking like they've already said no, they'll say no. You need to go in excited, with a big smile, big heart and willing to give anything a go ..

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Reply #19 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:53pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Need job advice

You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours.

Wait until Lisa comes on, she'll have the good advice you're waiting for, she's our very own 'wonder woman', Jill of all trades, involved in HR and all sorts of other things.....fair dinkum mate, you'll see.

you have a thread with a young person asking for help, and you still couldn't resist having a cheap shot at lisa? And you have the hide to lecture others on how they behave? Cheesy

Excuse me John Smith but it wasn't long ago that our Lisa helped another forum member when he was looking to change jobs. HR experience is a huge part in the employment industry and that's what she has.

Go 'cheap shot' yourself!

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Reply #20 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:18pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Need job advice

You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours.

Wait until Lisa comes on, she'll have the good advice you're waiting for, she's our very own 'wonder woman', Jill of all trades, involved in HR and all sorts of other things.....fair dinkum mate, you'll see.

you have a thread with a young person asking for help, and you still couldn't resist having a cheap shot at lisa? And you have the hide to lecture others on how they behave? Cheesy

Leave Pansi alone John Boy. Pete is doing all the right things- it's only a matter of time before he gets lucky...and Pete jobs are scarce everywhere atm- don't take it to heart - I have work now but I despaired there for a while like you are now - you're not alone- when we kick Abbott out jobs the jobs market will be easier - cheers.

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Reply #21 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:23pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Need job advice

You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours.

Wait until Lisa comes on, she'll have the good advice you're waiting for, she's our very own 'wonder woman', Jill of all trades, involved in HR and all sorts of other things.....fair dinkum mate, you'll see.

you have a thread with a young person asking for help, and you still couldn't resist having a cheap shot at lisa? And you have the hide to lecture others on how they behave? Cheesy

She did the same on Yahoo....year in, year out. She can't help it. It's an addiction.

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Reply #22 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

pete98 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

What area are you in?

sending in application forms, letters etc doesn't really work ...

you need to get out and knock on doors, all sorts of doors. Even in places where you don't know what they do or sell ... as long as you're keen, they'll be willing to train you. And don't let secretaries fob you off ... ask that you speak to the managers

I live in Melbourne. I'm just confused because all my mates have got jobs by sending in resumes. I don't know if there's something about me that people don't like the look of or what.

I've tried going to lots of small businesses and asking if they would be willing to hire me and that hasn't worked. A fair few of them have been quite rude about it too. I guess I'll just keep trying that.

Thank you.

keep trying, don't lose heart, I spent several years on the dole when i left school because no one would hire me. I ended up taking a pizza delivery job at night until I found something else.

remember, it's all about attitude, if you go in there looking like they've already said no, they'll say no. You need to go in excited, with a big smile, big heart and willing to give anything a go ..

Good grief! SEVERAL YEARS ON THE DOLE?

Why didn't you just go to Uni? Or TAFE even?

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Reply #23 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:41pm

pete98 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

What area are you in?

sending in application forms, letters etc doesn't really work ...

you need to get out and knock on doors, all sorts of doors. Even in places where you don't know what they do or sell ... as long as you're keen, they'll be willing to train you. And don't let secretaries fob you off ... ask that you speak to the managers

I live in Melbourne. I'm just confused because all my mates have got jobs by sending in resumes. I don't know if there's something about me that people don't like the look of or what.

I've tried going to lots of small businesses and asking if they would be willing to hire me and that hasn't worked. A fair few of them have been quite rude about it too. I guess I'll just keep trying that.

Thank you.

Forget the knocking on doors unsolicited advice, might have worked 30 years ago but a business owners time is more valuable than continually answering unsolicited queries about job opportunities. Basically its down to your resume, lie at anything you can get away with and you have skills at. i.e you might have good skills pulling PCs apart because that may be your hobby, so invent some work experience at doing so. If you are not prepared to lie you are 2 steps behind other job seekers. Thats the unfortunate truth.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Need job advice Reply #24 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:44pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:30pm: Need job advice You've come to the right place Pete, 99% of the posters on here are unemployed, on disability, sole parent or aged pension or part time casual hours. you know everything Pansi, you must be so , so clever.
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Reply #25 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:45pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

pete98 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

What area are you in?

sending in application forms, letters etc doesn't really work ...

you need to get out and knock on doors, all sorts of doors. Even in places where you don't know what they do or sell ... as long as you're keen, they'll be willing to train you. And don't let secretaries fob you off ... ask that you speak to the managers

I live in Melbourne. I'm just confused because all my mates have got jobs by sending in resumes. I don't know if there's something about me that people don't like the look of or what.

I've tried going to lots of small businesses and asking if they would be willing to hire me and that hasn't worked. A fair few of them have been quite rude about it too. I guess I'll just keep trying that.

Thank you.

keep trying, don't lose heart, I spent several years on the dole when i left school because no one would hire me. I ended up taking a pizza delivery job at night until I found something else.

remember, it's all about attitude, if you go in there looking like they've already said no, they'll say no. You need to go in excited, with a big smile, big heart and willing to give anything a go ..

Good grief! SEVERAL YEARS ON THE DOLE?

Why didn't you just go to Uni? Or TAFE even?

that was AFTER tafe ... Ass. Dip. Accounting. ... used it for toilet paper for all the good it did.

Couldn't afford uni, family circumstances meant I had to partially pay for my sisters uni education instead.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Need job advice Reply #26 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:46pm rhino wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:41pm: ie at anything you can get away with not sure I'd give that advice although it does seem to be what the majority of people are doing.
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Reply #27 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

It most certainly is and if you can get away with it and be quite sure you will not get caught out- do. My sister lied her way into a very high level job as a Registrar of an Arts Centre in Sydney. I said to her "how in the hell did you do that, you don't know anything about being a registrar ?" She replied " I just told them what they wanted to hear and baffled them with bullshit--I made sure I caught onto everything very quickly and they were none the wiser." She is very articulate and they bought it.

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Reply #28 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 8:01pm

I used to hear it all the time when i used to paint, problem was it was easy to tell if they were lying or not ... one guy comes to mind, told he he painted high rise for 7 years .. gave him a duster brush told him to pick a brush out of the brush bucket and and sent him up a ladder to paint the fascia

he walked past the brush bucket, crawled up the ladder, I could hear his knees knocking together from fear of heights from 50 m away, dipped his duster brush into the paint and started painted the same eaves we'd finished painting the day prior

no way he had ever worked at heights, no way he had ever used a paint brush, no way he had 7 yrs experience. .. sent him home after less than 5 minutes.

At the time, I needed someone and I would have kept him on if he'd been honest about his lack of skills.

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