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Re: Fluoride in Water Poison ?
Reply #75 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:03pm:
Dear master Light,

before fluoride many teenagers - only 14 years old etc
had all their rotten teeth pulled out.
They had to have false teeth for the rest of their lives.
Tooth decay was a plague amongst nearly everyone.

Now - that is a very rare occurrence.

forgiven for being a horse with blinkers & seeing only one side of an argument.

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bobby...

it the simple act of dental hygiene that saves teeth..

back in the day you are talking about no one cleaned their teeth....

ive never had Fluoride in any of my water for nearly all of my 50 years until this town decided to put it in 5 or 6 years ago...

and this is when I developed aching muscles...

I had heard of warnings of fluoride and aching muscles before they started putting it in our water and I thought it was bullshit...

even when I had aching muscles each morning, as stiff as a board, I didn't relate it back to the Fluoride...

but... then I put in a Fresh Rain water tank and had it plumed into our shower... then a short time later after we had water in the tank... aching muscles disappeared... !!!

coincidence?

I also now run a 7 stage reverse osmosis water treatment system that takes out Fluoride, Chlorine, Chloride, and any other chemicals and bugs...  Angry


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Reply #76 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:16pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
Sir master Bobby,
Quote:
" Tooth decay was a plague amongst nearly everyone. "  then in the next breath you say "Now - that is a very rare occurrence. "


Was is past tense -  now is present tense.

What's your problem?


many blessings provide your links to your claim

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Mate - I don't need any proof - I can remember & I also remember what my parents told me.

There used to be so many kids at school with false teeth.
I know someone who lost their teeth at 14 & many others in the 20's.


many blessings sir bobby

provide links

or welcome obscurity upon your being

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Reply #77 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:22pm
 
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I also now run a 7 stage reverse osmosis water treatment system that takes out Fluoride, Chlorine, Chloride, and any other chemicals and bugs...


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knowledge is power and when power is in motion

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many run from fact and truth and so be it

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Reply #78 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:40pm
 
also check out the bottom of your Kettles especially if you use one that has a coil element in it to heat the water..

you'll see a crust covering the surface.. that all Fluoride, Chlorine, Chloride etc etc..

now this is my jug... its approx. 5 years old and has only ever had water in it from our water treatment system...

...

not one spec of that white filth chemical crust...  Smiley
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Re: Fluoride in Water Poison ?
Reply #79 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:53pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:16pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
Sir master Bobby,
Quote:
" Tooth decay was a plague amongst nearly everyone. "  then in the next breath you say "Now - that is a very rare occurrence. "


Was is past tense -  now is present tense.

What's your problem?


many blessings provide your links to your claim

namaste

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Mate - I don't need any proof - I can remember & I also remember what my parents told me.

There used to be so many kids at school with false teeth.
I know someone who lost their teeth at 14 & many others in the 20's.


many blessings sir bobby

provide links

or welcome obscurity upon your being

namaste

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Dear master Light,

Here are some links to keep you busy:

http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingswork/a/How-Fluoride-Works.htm

http://theconversation.com/how-fluoride-in-water-helps-prevent-tooth-decay-6933

http://www.bfsweb.org/documents/howfworks.htm

http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_decay/t4_tooth_decay_fluoride.htm


http://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/pressroom/presspacs/2013/acs-presspac-may-29-2...

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/pdf/natures_way.pdf

http://www.ada.org/en/public-programs/advocating-for-the-public/fluoride-and-flu...


You are forgiven

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Reply #80 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:55pm
 
check out this government website

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002745.htm

Quote:
Toothpaste overdose


Toothpaste is a product used to clean teeth. This article discusses the effects of swallowing a lot of toothpaste.

This is for information only and not for use in the treatment or management of an actual poison exposure. If you have an exposure, you should call your local emergency number (such as 911) or the National Poison Control Center at 1-800-222-1222.


Poisonous Ingredient

•Sodium fluoride
•Triclosan


Where Found
•Various toothpastes

Symptoms

Swallowing a large amount of regular toothpaste may cause stomach pain and possible intestinal blockage.

These additional symptoms may occur when swallowing a large amount of toothpaste containing fluoride:
•Convulsions
•Diarrhea
•Difficulty breathing
•Drooling
•Heart attack
•Salty or soapy taste in the mouth
•Slow heart rate
•Shock
•Tremors
•Vomiting
•Weakness


Home Care

Do NOT make a person throw up unless told to do so by poison control or a health care professional. Seek immediate medical help.

If the product was swallowed, immediately give the person water or milk, unless instructed otherwise by a health care provider. Do NOT give water or milk if the patient is having symptoms (such as vomiting, convulsions, or a decreased level of alertness) that make it hard to swallow.

Before Calling Emergency

Determine the following information:
•The patient's age, weight, and condition
•The name of the product (as well as the ingredients and strength, if known)
•The time it was swallowed
•The amount swallowed

Poison Control  Shocked

The National Poison Control Center (1-800-222-1222) can be called from anywhere in the United States. This national hotline number will let you talk to experts in poisoning. They will give you further instructions.

This is a free and confidential service. All local poison control centers in the United States use this national number. You should call if you have any questions about poisoning or poison prevention. It does NOT need to be an emergency. You can call for any reason, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Take the container with you to the hospital, if possible.

See: Poison control center - emergency number

What to Expect at the Emergency Room

If you swallow toothpaste that does not contain fluoride, you may not need to go to the hospital.


Those who swallow a lot of fluoride toothpaste, especially if they are small children, may need to go to the hospital emergency department.

At the emergency room, the health care provider will measure and monitor the patient's vital signs, including temperature, pulse, breathing rate, and blood pressure. Blood and urine tests will be done. The patient may receive:
•Calcium -- medicine (antidote) to reverse the effect of the poison
•Endoscopy -- camera down the throat to see burns to the esophagus and the stomach
•Fluids by IV
•Medicines to treat symptoms
•Tube through the mouth into the stomach to wash out the stomach (gastric lavage)

Outlook (Prognosis)

Patients who swallow a very large amount of fluoride toothpaste and survive 48 hours usually recover.  Shocked

See also: Fluoride overdose

Most nonfluoride (regular) toothpastes are relatively nontoxic (nonpoisonous). Recovery is very likely.

Update Date: 8/3/2011

Updated by: Eric Perez, MD, Department of Emergency Medicine, St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY. Review provided by VeriMed Healthcare Network. Also reviewed by David Zieve, MD, MHA, Medical Director, A.D.A.M., Inc.


why would anyone deliberately put poison in their mouths??  Huh
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Re: Fluoride in Water Poison ?
Reply #81 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 6:35pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:40pm:
also check out the bottom of your Kettles especially if you use one that has a coil element in it to heat the water..

you'll see a crust covering the surface.. that all Fluoride, Chlorine, Chloride etc etc..

now this is my jug... its approx. 5 years old and has only ever had water in it from our water treatment system...

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/20150225_182121.jpg

not one spec of that white filth chemical crust...  Smiley


And that's called limescale, and is mostly calcium carbonate.
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Re: Fluoride in Water Poison ?
Reply #82 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 7:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:53pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:16pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
Sir master Bobby,
Quote:
" Tooth decay was a plague amongst nearly everyone. "  then in the next breath you say "Now - that is a very rare occurrence. "


Was is past tense -  now is present tense.

What's your problem?


many blessings provide your links to your claim

namaste

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Mate - I don't need any proof - I can remember & I also remember what my parents told me.

There used to be so many kids at school with false teeth.
I know someone who lost their teeth at 14 & many others in the 20's.


many blessings sir bobby

provide links

or welcome obscurity upon your being

namaste

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Dear master Light,

Here are some links to keep you busy:

http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingswork/a/How-Fluoride-Works.htm

http://theconversation.com/how-fluoride-in-water-helps-prevent-tooth-decay-6933

http://www.bfsweb.org/documents/howfworks.htm

http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_decay/t4_tooth_decay_fluoride.htm


http://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/pressroom/presspacs/2013/acs-presspac-may-29-2...

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/pdf/natures_way.pdf

http://www.ada.org/en/public-programs/advocating-for-the-public/fluoride-and-flu...


You are forgiven

namaste


many blessings sir bobby

I looked at the first link and if that's your evidence

you are in lack

your science is flawed

you are forgiven for ignorance

now start at reply #13 and start your rebutals

then go on to PZ links

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Re: Fluoride in Water Poison ?
Reply #83 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:38pm
 
sir master Light,
Quote:
many blessings sir bobby

I looked at the first link and if that's your evidence

you are in lack

your science is flawed

you are forgiven for ignorance

now start at reply #13 and start your rebutals

then go on to PZ links

namaste

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Dear sir master Light,
You asked for links & I gave you plenty.

The fact that you only glanced at the first one says you are not interested in a counter opinion.

this is forgiven

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Reply #84 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:38pm:
sir master Light,
Quote:
many blessings sir bobby

I looked at the first link and if that's your evidence

you are in lack

your science is flawed

you are forgiven for ignorance

now start at reply #13 and start your rebutals

then go on to PZ links

namaste

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Dear sir master Light,
You asked for links & I gave you plenty.

The fact that you only glanced at the first one says you are not interested in a counter opinion.

this is forgiven

namaste


http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingswork/a/How-Fluoride-Works.htm

many blessings sir bobby

the whole article is a pharmaceutical companys' wet dream

and why not ?

they wrote it ..

now look at the harvard studies posted

for you are addled with fluoride

and you are also forgiven

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Reply #85 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:45pm
 
when you are finished with the harvard study

then look here

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/chem_background/exsumpdf/fluorosilicates_508...

Sodium Hexafluorosilicate
[CASRN 16893-85-9]
and
Fluorosilicic Acid
[CASRN 16961-83-4]
Review of Toxicological Literature


http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/chem_background/exsumpdf/fluorosilicates_508...

if after reading both these

and you still want your fluoride you then win

for you have achieved stupidity in its purest form

you remain forgiven

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Reply #86 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:52pm
 


Fat, Stupid & Depressed: Fluoride Side Effects

Published on Feb 25, 2015
Unlike the US, the UK doesn’t have universal fluoridation. This has allowed an epidemiological study comparing health effects, with the result being that those drinking fluoridated water are more likely to suffer from thyroid disorders leading to obesity and depression. You’ll be surprised at the fluoride concentrations that are correlated with disease and loss of IQ points.



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Reply #87 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 8:56pm
 
dear Sir master Light,

if you still have your teeth then you owe it to fluoride.

Give thanks for modern miracles.

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Reply #88 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 9:33pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 4:03pm:
Dear master Light,

before fluoride many teenagers - only 14 years old etc
had all their rotten teeth pulled out.
They had to have false teeth for the rest of their lives.
Tooth decay was a plague amongst nearly everyone.

Now - that is a very rare occurrence.

forgiven for being a horse with blinkers & seeing only one side of an argument.

namaste


bobby...

it the simple act of dental hygiene that saves teeth..

back in the day you are talking about no one cleaned their teeth....

ive never had Fluoride in any of my water for nearly all of my 50 years until this town decided to put it in 5 or 6 years ago...

and this is when I developed aching muscles...

I had heard of warnings of fluoride and aching muscles before they started putting it in our water and I thought it was bullshit...

even when I had aching muscles each morning, as stiff as a board, I didn't relate it back to the Fluoride...

but... then I put in a Fresh Rain water tank and had it plumed into our shower... then a short time later after we had water in the tank... aching muscles disappeared... !!!

coincidence?

I also now run a 7 stage reverse osmosis water treatment system that takes out Fluoride, Chlorine, Chloride, and any other chemicals and bugs...  Angry





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Reply #89 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 9:44pm
 
I also consider that people should have a choice if they want to drink fluoride or not.
Why force it upon the whole population?
If those that believe that fluoride do something to their kids teeth, then let the dentists give out fluoride tablets to put in their daily gulp of water for free.
Oh, and speaking of dentists, funny how, we have had fluoride in our waters since I can remember in our region (I think back in the late 70's or early 80's).....and yet, try and get a dental appointment, they are flat out for something like 2 months!
Why is that?
If this fluoride is supposed to make teeth so good and strong, then why are dentists busier than ever?

I want choices, and I choose to not have any fluoride and my kids have been on tank water for their entire lives, both now in their early 30's, and they have the most beautiful teeth.
Of course, I taught them to brush their teeth always, and to floss as well, since a very early age. And to never swallow the toothpaste like some do, always spit it out and rinse.
I prefer as a choice, to also buy toothpastes without fluoride.


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