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Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:15pm
 
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An inquest has revealed harrowing details for the first time about what happened inside the Lindt Cafe during the 17-hour Sydney siege.

The court heard the gunman Man Haron Monis shot manager Tori Johnson execution style, while Katrina Dawson was caught in the crossfire as police stormed in.

Man Haron Monis, the Iranian-born self-styled cleric who died along with two of the people he had taken hostage, was being investigated over fraud charges when he fled his home country in 1996, police said.

"Rarely have such horrifying events unfolded so publicly," State Coroner Barnes said in his opening address.

"Indeed there are some questions that may remain unresolved because the only person who truly knew the answers is beyond reach."

Here are some of the first major insights into exactly what happened on December 15;

Wearing camouflage pants, black jacket, baseball cap, black backpack, self-styled Islamic cleric Man Monis, 50, entered the cafe around 8.33am carrying a plastic bag.

He carries a hidden pump-action shotgun sawn off at the butt and barrel.

Monis eats chocolate cake and drinks tea, then moves to a table with a view of the whole cafe, then around 9.03am he asks to speak to the manager.

Tori Johnson sits down and appears stressed during the conversation, according to staff.

Johnson says to a colleague something like, "I need you to get my keys - lock the doors - we're closed - everything is OK - tell the staff to be calm".

Hostages were forced to hold the black flag with white Arabic writing up to the window, in full view of 7News cameras in the adjacent building.

The doors are then locked and Monis puts on a vest and a bandanna, stands up, produces the shot gun and declares, "This is an attack. I have a bomb".

He orders staff and customers to move to northern wall of the cafe, and orders hostages to hold a flag described as being Islamic up to the windows.

Around 9:44am, Monis tells Johnson to call Triple-0 and operators are told 'Australia is under attack by Islamic State'.

Johnson says radio bombs are in Martin Place, Circular Quay and George Street, which later proves to be false. He tells the operator he has a gun pointed at him, and that Monis has taken him and others hostage.

Police acknowledge the incident around 9.46am and arrive at the scene about five minutes later, as a tactical operations unit acknowledges the emergency.

At 10.07am the tactical operations unit arrives and the siege is treated as a possible terrorist attack.

Monis tells his 18 hostages he has a bomb in his backpack, which he holds on to throughout the siege.

Iran repeatedly warned Australia about the criminal past of the perpetrator of the Sydney cafe siege and called for him to be kept under surveillance, top officials in Tehran said. Photo: 7News

Some of the hostages manage to escape during the afternoon, and Monis fires his gun, striking the wall above the cafe door.

He fires again, striking the wall above the cafe door in the early hours of December 16.

Around 2.14am, Monis forces Johnson to kneel on the floor of the cafe before he is shot in the head, from 75cm away.

A police marksman stationed in the 7News building witnesses the shooting and police force entry to the cafe, shattering the glass windows and doors.

Tactical units throw eleven flashbang grenades, creating sudden violent flashes of light and gunshot sounds.

Two police officers fire 22 shots at Monis, who returns fire, shooting his shotgun once or twice at the entry team.

Monis is killed by at least two bullets or fragments to the head and 11 other bullets or fragments to the body.

One of several hostages who managed to escape.

Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.

Three other hostages and one tactical operative are also hit by ricocheting bullet fragments.

The siege ends with heavily armed police storming the high-end cafe, after about 10 of the 17 surviving hostages managed to escape.

Sydney siege hero Tori Johnson was shot dead at close range by gunman Man Haron Monis just seconds before police stormed the Lindt Chocolate Cafe, according to police investigations.

Reports have suggested that Monis shot Johnson as he tried to wrestle his weapon.

Monis apparently fired five shots in total. Police fired 22 shots, and launched 11 distraction grenades.

No details were revealed about why police did not shoot Monis earlier, but it will be investigated.

Insights into Monis's behaviour will also come from hostages like Marcia Mikhael, who will appear in a 7News special on the siege.

The family of hostage Marcia Mikhael spoke of their most fearful hours as they watched the Sydney siege unfold from their home in Canada.

"He didn't seem to have a plan. He seemed to be making up things as he was going along [because] his stories were kind of contradicting you know themselves," Mikhael told Seven's Melissa Doyle.

"I don't think he was meant to be there and the reason I think he wasn't meant to be there is he didn't have he didn't know the layout of the cafe."

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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:17pm
 
Part II...

"He didn't even know how many hostages he had at the beginning. People escaped and he lost count of us people escaped and he didn't even know they was there."

Mikhael said she thinks Monis had another plan.

"It didn't go according to plan so that was plan B for him. Given Lindt Cafe was right across the road from Channel Seven, I think probably Channel Seven was the plan A."

Amirah Droudis, Monis's partner, is charged with the murder of his ex-partner. Her bail was revoked following the siege.

The siege triggered a wave of emotion in Sydney, with thousands flocking to Martin Place to leave flowers at an impromptu memorial and sign condolence books.

It also raised questions about how Monis, who had a long criminal history, was let out on bail given that charges against him included sexual offences and abetting the murder of his ex-wife.

Monis was once acquitted in a Sydney court of threatening to shoot his former partner Noleen Hayson Pal (pictured right).

In the hours after the drama, Prime Minister Tony Abbott ordered an urgent enquiry into why the deranged gunman was not under surveillance and how he had obtained citizenship.

The month before the siege Monis had posted a message in Arabic on his website pledging allegiance to "the Caliph of the Muslims", which some interpreted as the Islamic State group.

British police experts have also been called on to provide an independent review of the Sydney siege police operation, the inquest was told.

Along with domestic and internal reviews, an assessment will be undertaken by experts from the Office of the Chief Coroner of the United Kingdom.

Thousands of Sydneysiders flocked to Martin Place to pay their respects to the victims of the Sydney siege, leaving flowers and tributes.

"The purpose of that course is to have an assessment independent of NSW Police," said counsel assisting the coroner, Jeremy Gormly SC.

"(They) have particular expertise in siege management."

The team will include a few interstate Australian policing experts for domestic context."

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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:25pm
 
Very passing and oblique reference to contemporary schmedia reports that Johnson had jumped Monis and was shot while struggling for control of the weapon.......or similar.
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many blessings and crikey !

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Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.


so cops pumped 6 into her ...

these criminals are forgiven

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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:28pm
 
I was struck (bad choice of word) by the fragments etc causing fatalities.  In aircraft busts mid-air, there is a sub-sonic 9mm round used in the HK MP5 and derivatives, which is very accurate and reduces risk of puncturing fuselage etc.  Might be an idea.

As before, the 5.56 is very high velocity and frangible... perhaps not the best round of choice....

Damn that man Monis... may he burn in Hell forever.
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it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
many blessings and crikey !

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Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.


so cops pumped 6 into her ...

these criminals are forgiven

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You have no respect for the dead and their families.

you are forgiven

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Reply #6 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:13am
 
Steampipe wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
many blessings and crikey !

Quote:
Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.


so cops pumped 6 into her ...

these criminals are forgiven

namaste



You have no respect for the dead and their families.

you are forgiven

namaste


facts are truth

the police put 6 frags into her

one such as I am would suggest the police have no respect

you merely limp wristedly attack the messenger

you are forgiven

namaste
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Reply #7 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:34am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:13am:
Steampipe wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
many blessings and crikey !

Quote:
Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.


so cops pumped 6 into her ...

these criminals are forgiven

namaste



You have no respect for the dead and their families.

you are forgiven

namaste


facts are truth

the police put 6 frags into her

one such as I am would suggest the police have no respect

you merely limp wristedly attack the messenger

you are forgiven

namaste


You bask in others pain.

You abuse to feel power.

You are forgiven

Namaste
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many blessings

your confusion and misplaced judgement

is observed and forgiven , as well as your imitation

of this humble writer , as we continue to pursue facts

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/dpp-never-received-police-warning-on-m...

DPP never received police warning on Man Haron Monis
EXCLUSIVE JANET FIFE-YEOMANS THE DAILY TELEGRAPH JANUARY 30, 2015 12:00AM

...

these are the police that pumped 6 frags into dawson

these are exposed and forgiven

namaste
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it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:45am:
many blessings

your confusion and misplaced judgement

is observed and forgiven , as well as your imitation

of this humble writer , as we continue to pursue facts



DPP never received police warning on Man Haron Monis
EXCLUSIVE JANET FIFE-YEOMANS THE DAILY TELEGRAPH JANUARY 30, 2015 12:00AM

these are the police that pumped 6 frags into dawson

these are exposed and forgiven

namaste



You feel the need to hurt people and cause pain.
This is caused by rejection from your own family.
You want to inflict the pain you feel.
You want others to suffer as you have.

You need to be freed from this cycle of pain

Our forgiveness is a blessing for you
You cant be loved until you love
Free your spirit and open your heart
We will love you unconditionally eternally

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Reply #10 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 6:13am
 
many blessings

the truth and fact of how who and why katrina dawson was fraged up but not limited to 6 times

will be pursued without your permission or approval

the facts will be exposed to the light

and will not be hindered by your red herrings and flaming

the facts have been and will continue to be

announced ... this will happen at your comfort or discomfort

either way be at peace as you confront these facts

and the finding that police bullets killed dawson

why not research instead of lamenting in your discontent and ignorance ..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420922990

yet either way beloved being

be at peace

namaste
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Reply #11 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 6:22am
 
How come 6 uncontrolled fragments went into her but no one else?

Was anyone else hit by a fragment?

I am confused.
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it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 6:13am:
many blessings

the truth and fact of how who and why katrina dawson was fraged up but not limited to 6 times

will be pursued without your permission or approval

the facts will be exposed to the light

and will not be hindered by your red herrings and flaming

the facts have been and will continue to be

announced ... this will happen at your comfort or discomfort

either way be at peace as you confront these facts

and the finding that police bullets killed dawson

why not research instead of lamenting in your discontent and ignorance ..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420922990

yet either way beloved being

be at peace

namaste



I worry for your soul as it wrestles with dark forces
It is not your calling to be the coroner but you have no control.
Not having the knowledge of love and compassion it is beyond your abilities.
For you it is the living in the pain and prodding the wounds.
Your reactions are a reflection of a unloved and lonely soul.
Dawson was a peaceful person who will forgive your weakness.

you are forgiven and loved

Namaste
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it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
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Hostage Katrina Dawson is struck by six fragments of a police bullet or bullets, which ricochet from hard surfaces into her body, striking a major blood vessel.


so cops pumped 6 into her ...




You are an evil bastard, aren't you.

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Reply #14 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:50am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:45am:
many blessings

your confusion and misplaced judgement

is observed and forgiven , as well as your imitation

of this humble writer , as we continue to pursue facts

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/dpp-never-received-police-warning-on-m...

DPP never received police warning on Man Haron Monis
EXCLUSIVE JANET FIFE-YEOMANS THE DAILY TELEGRAPH JANUARY 30, 2015 12:00AM

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2015/01/29/1227200/581168-f0eae0c2-a734-11e...

these are the police that pumped 6 frags into dawson

these are exposed and forgiven

namaste



Tactical deficiency - when entering a closed space via a single door - always have a left hander and a right hander in front for maximum coverage of natural arcs of fire... choose carefully depending on layout of premises to be entered.  Whichever natural arc has the greatest known area to cover goes first.....

Scary, huh?

Waddya mean you don' unnerstan' 'natural arc of fire'? 

Simple.... a left hander naturally covers the right side better, a right hander the left side.... try it some time....
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