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* The QUEENSLAND election Vs Climate Change *
Jan 29th, 2015 at 5:55pm
 
What is the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?


source: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2015/jan/28/queensland-election...
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Reply #1 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:07pm
 
Of course first we have to have "developed a science well enough to make predictions".

'Tropical cyclones, coral predation by crown-of-thorns starfish (COTS), and coral bleaching accounted for 48%, 42%, and 10% of the respective estimated losses, amounting to 3.38% y−1 mortality rate. Importantly, the relatively pristine northern region showed no overall decline. '

http://www.pnas.org/content/109/44/17995.full

HMM, no overall decline in the northern region. 10% due to coral bleaching, no increase in tropical cyclones.
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Reply #2 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:07pm:
Of course first we have to have "developed a science well enough to make predictions".

'Tropical cyclones, coral predation by crown-of-thorns starfish (COTS), and coral bleaching accounted for 48%, 42%, and 10% of the respective estimated losses, amounting to 3.38% y−1 mortality rate. Importantly, the relatively pristine northern region showed no overall decline. '

http://www.pnas.org/content/109/44/17995.full

HMM, no overall decline in the northern region. 10% due to coral bleaching, no increase in tropical cyclones.

Cyclone intensities are increasing with warming ocean temperatures, although projected increases are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (6). The recent frequency and intensity of mass coral bleaching are of major concern, and are directly attributable to rising atmospheric greenhouse gases (3). To date, the GBR has lost fewer corals to bleaching and diseases than many other regions in the world (13, 24), but bleaching mortality will almost certainly increase in the GBR, given the upward trend in temperatures (25).


..same reference source  Shocked
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Reply #3 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:05pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 5:55pm:
What is the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?


source: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2015/jan/28/queensland-election...


Perhaps if the 'predictions' were accurate, or even based on science, rather than ideology people MIGHT be willing to listen, or use the 'science' in politics.. Grin Grin
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Reply #4 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (



Just as well we live in the Southern Hemisphere then.

...

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Reply #5 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:25pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (



Just as well we live in the Southern Hemisphere then.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/tc-graph-1969-2012.png

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The axes on your graph aren't very well labelled are they mate  Wink Wink

.. any reason for that??
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Reply #6 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:35pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:25pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (



Just as well we live in the Southern Hemisphere then.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/tc-graph-1969-2012.png

Source BOM

The axes on your graph aren't very well labelled are they mate  Wink Wink

.. any reason for that??


Yes, they ARE 'well labelled'...the reason is that the alarmists don't like reality...
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Reply #7 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:25pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (



Just as well we live in the Southern Hemisphere then.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/tc-graph-1969-2012.png

Source BOM

The axes on your graph aren't very well labelled are they mate  Wink Wink

.. any reason for that??


Yes, they ARE 'well labelled'...the reason is that the alarmists don't like reality...

Don't tell me what's what mate: you're a complete joke if you think that graph explains itself and every single person on this forum would agree... unless they are copper internet fans of course  Embarrassed Embarrassed Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:46pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:38pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:25pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
are greater for the Northern Hemisphere than for the Southern Hemisphere (



Just as well we live in the Southern Hemisphere then.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/tc-graph-1969-2012.png

Source BOM

The axes on your graph aren't very well labelled are they mate  Wink Wink

.. any reason for that??


Yes, they ARE 'well labelled'...the reason is that the alarmists don't like reality...

Don't tell me what's what mate: you're a complete joke if you think that graph explains itself and [highlight]every single person on this forum would agree...[/highlight] unless they are copper internet fans of course  Embarrassed Embarrassed Cheesy

Smiley Smiley


Why not...you really seem to 'need' someone to actually TELL you 'what's what'

And way less than 50% of the people on this forum would 'agree' because most people can actually look and and understand the climate records...which means that do NOT agree with your idea of retard Global Warming...
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:54pm
 
You would have to blame BOM for that; it's their graph. Or are you saying I should re-interpret for them?
As can be seen it's from here-

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/tc-graph-1969-2012.png

And it shows the number of cyclones per year and their interpretation of severity.
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Reply #10 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:55pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:54pm:
You would have to blame BOM for that; it's their graph. Or are you saying I should re-interpret for them?

You posted it... man up buddy  Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:00pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:55pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:54pm:
You would have to blame BOM for that; it's their graph. Or are you saying I should re-interpret for them?

You posted it... man up buddy  Cheesy


So someone who posts a graph you don't like is 'wrong'???
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Reply #12 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:08pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:00pm:
So someone who posts a graph you don't like is 'wrong'???


When the story differs from reality; go with the story. Smiley Wink
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Reply #13 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:11pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:00pm:
So someone who posts a graph you don't like is 'wrong'???


When the story differs from reality; go with the story. :) Wink


Yep, that DOES seem to be the idea, mostly for those idiots climate change 'believers'
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Reply #14 - Jan 30th, 2015 at 4:10pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 3:00pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:55pm:
lee wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:54pm:
You would have to blame BOM for that; it's their graph. Or are you saying I should re-interpret for them?

You posted it... man up buddy  Cheesy


So someone who posts a graph you don't like is 'wrong'???

Dear Einstein, graphs need to be labelled- end of story! Cheesy Cheesy
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