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Reply #15 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:43am

jesse ventura, oh yeah the former governor of minnesota, ex navy seal, former wrestler.

liked his performance in the 1987 sci fi action movie, PREDATOR, alongside arnold scharwznegger.

But lost his marbles along the way by being a CONSPIRACY NUT, maybe his mind flipped after watching TOO MUCH X FILES.

Jesse ventura peddles in the most outlandish conspiracy theories that you can ever hear, a true fruit loop that you cant help but laugh at his state of mind.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: American sniper movie controversy Reply #16 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: American sniper movie controversy Reply #17 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:46am AiA wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 12:42am: This Clint Eastwood version makes it seem that the sniper was tormented by his actions in Iraq. The real sniper was not. of course he wasnt.
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Reply #18 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

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Reply #19 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:15am

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

read my comment again.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: American sniper movie controversy Reply #20 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:20am In WW1, WW2, Korea etc, it didn't matter what army it was - US, Brit, Australian, Japanese, German, Russian etc.... they all killed snipers upon capture. A quick execution on the spot was about the best they could hope for. That shows the high regard that armies of all nationalities hold for snipers.
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Reply #21 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:30am

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

Wouldn't the archers be the snipers?

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Reply #22 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:33am

The terrorists have a hero sniper too, he operated in Iraq for a while after the invasion, I don't think the terrorists have a movie industry and they are not real keen on books either so you probably won't hear too much about his exploits.

Maybe Moore could make a movie about him, finally a sniper that the left can admire too.

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Reply #23 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:51am

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Most regiments in most armies have dedicated snipers, so that statement is a load of bollocks sunshine. Removing any risks to advancing troops by inserting forward sniper teams is an established strategy since the Napoleonic wars. Your definition of a "Warrior" seems very far removed from that considered by REAL experienced military men.

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Reply #24 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 12:09pm

Is that fat useless slug Michael Moore still pulling air? Thought he would have gone for the big cardiac arrest he's been working on for years.

Michael Moore isn't to shine Chris Kyle's shoes. Kyle won six silver stars, bronze stars you name it.

He was a genuine bona fide hero and did close quarter fighting a plenty as well as sniper duties.

The movie is a close reflection of life. He saved untold American lives by taking out ambushes and other snipers.

He was credited with 162 kills but the true count is more like 252....Too bad it wasn't 20,000.

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Reply #25 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 12:16pm

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

read my comment again.

I did many times and its quite clear to me everytime, that you were taking a swipe at snipers because they are not fighting like maximus meridius in GLADIATOR, if that is anywhere near your definition of a warrior, even if he is a fictional one, Grin

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Reply #26 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 12:19pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

The terrorists have a hero sniper too, he operated in Iraq for a while after the invasion, I don't think the terrorists have a movie industry and they are not real keen on books either so you probably won't hear too much about his exploits.

Maybe Moore could make a movie about him, finally a sniper that the left can admire too.

I think Michael moore only directs docomentaries criticising america.

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Reply #27 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 6:32pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:30am:

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

Wouldn't the archers be the snipers?

Not really, Early forms of snipering sprung around in the the american revolutionary war in the late 18th century, due to the advancements in rifling in that time period, before that time firearms were smoothbore and inaccurate over long distances to allow any kind of snipering.

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Reply #28 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 6:58pm

Resolute wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Most regiments in most armies have dedicated snipers, so that statement is a load of bollocks sunshine. Removing any risks to advancing troops by inserting forward sniper teams is an established strategy since the Napoleonic wars. Your definition of a "Warrior" seems very far removed from that considered by REAL experienced military men.

who cares My point about it being neither heroic or honourable stands, sunshine.

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Reply #29 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 8:02pm

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:30am:

stryder wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

ian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Only the Americans could make a hero out of a sniper, a warrior doesnt fight like that.

Ian you have no idea about modern military warfare in our times dont you ??? It really shows. every modern army in the world has snipers.

maybe your thinking about the times before BC, of ancient greek warriors charging along the battlefield with spears, swords and shields.

We are living in the modern world, mate.

not the ancient one.

Wouldn't the archers be the snipers?

Not really, Early forms of snipering sprung around in the the american revolutionary war in the late 18th century, due to the advancements in rifling in that time period, before that time firearms were smoothbore and inaccurate over long distances to allow any kind of snipering.

The name of that rifle, just for interests sake, was the Sharps, hence sharpshooter(Sharps shooter).

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