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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39515 Gender:	Best value 4 X 4 Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 10:48pm I've been researching the 2nd hand 4X4 market for a while. My pick of the best fourbys to buy are : 1/ Prado V6 petrol. If a bit older maybe a manual. 2/ Landcruiser petrol. The V8.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #1 - Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 11:04pm do you plan on going offroad much?
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Reply #2 - Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 11:10pm

No, hardly any.

Look at this : 2005 Toyota Prado GXL 6 speed manual 185klms!!! $16,500.00

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eight-mile-plains/cars-vans-utes/2005-toyota-prad...

.........Excellent condition, full history, just serviced including diff and gearbox oils, Michelin tires, rego until June, 8 seater, bull bar, tow bar, side steps, cold air con, new windscreen, rwc with sale, power windows, remote central locking, cruise control, and more!!! Powerful v6 4.0L motor!! Very clean 4x4 GXL wagon! Rwc and rego until June ..........

Very good buying,
An equivalent diesel would be $10K dearer.

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #3 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 6:36am get a diesel... something around 350NM Plus.. 2008 Holden Colorado RC LX $15,400 Kilometres 170,000 4X4 4 cylinder Diesel Turbo Intercooled 3.0 L 8.5L / 100km 360Nm @ 1800rpm http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Holden-Colorado-2008/SSE-AD-3063110/?...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #4 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 8:05am A big automatic petrol 4WD will cost a fortune in fuel. Consider converting it to gas.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #5 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 8:09am Sprinty, GET A JEEP
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #6 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 8:24am that prado looks nice but I'd also consider a diesel ...
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Re: Best value 4 X 4
Reply #7 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 8:49am

I'd always driven Toyotas, mainly Hi luxes and 75 series landcruiser utes.

nearly everyone in farming does and if you go to the NT or far north qld, then that's what you see.
this has a snowballing effect.
farmers and miners give great feedback on "what breaks" and Toyota can do specific development.
All the mechanics know how to work on them
If you breakdown at the cape, someone can open the bonnet, chuck something at the engine and it will usually fall into place and off you go.

So if you are a serious off road enthusiast , then its a no brainer.

Buy a jeep, or a VW taureg or a Hyundai or a sanyoong musso and you'll be coming home on the back of a trayback truck.

But for the tools in suburbia who think its cool to pick up little Johnny at St Stephens in a big black 4WD beast (wankers) , then there are lots more options.

of the brands that represent good value for money and seem to perform well on my place when people come to visit (ie can get across a river and climb a dirt track)

the Mitsubishi triton 2.5l turbo at about $32,000 and the Suzuki grand vitarra (a true 4 WD, not an all wheel drive) at about $27,000 are the pick.

I would never touch a jeep.

Suzuki are quite capable 4wd manufacturers and that would be my choice in the city (if going for value).

If you want luxurt the BMW X9 cant be beaten

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #8 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 9:32am BMWs of any type are not a goer IMO. They initially cost too much, play up too much, lose their re sale value too much...need I say more?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #9 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 9:50am In a 4 x 4 you'd want a diesel at least.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131492 Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #10 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04am Toyota. No competition.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #11 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 10:05am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 10:04am: Toyota. No competition. Yep. Agreed.
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Re: Best value 4 X 4
Reply #12 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 10:20am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 8:49am:

I'd always driven Toyotas, mainly Hi luxes and 75 series landcruiser utes.

nearly everyone in farming does and if you go to the NT or far north qld, then that's what you see.
this has a snowballing effect.
farmers and miners give great feedback on "what breaks" and Toyota can do specific development.All the mechanics know how to work on them
If you breakdown at the cape, someone can open the bonnet, chuck something at the engine and it will usually fall into place and off you go.

So if you are a serious off road enthusiast , then its a no brainer.

Buy a jeep, or a VW taureg or a Hyundai or a sanyoong musso and you'll be coming home on the back of a trayback truck.

But for the tools in suburbia who think its cool to pick up little Johnny at St Stephens in a big black 4WD beast (wankers) , then there are lots more options.

of the brands that represent good value for money and seem to perform well on my place when people come to visit (ie can get across a river and climb a dirt track)

the Mitsubishi triton 2.5l turbo at about $32,000 and the Suzuki grand vitarra (a true 4 WD, not an all wheel drive) at about $27,000 are the pick.

I would never touch a jeep.

Suzuki are quite capable 4wd manufacturers and that would be my choice in the city (if going for value).

If you want luxurt the BMW X9 cant be beaten

that's been my observation.
the further west I go, the more the locals drive toyotas.

Buy something else if you want, but the vote from the experts is toyota.

Also, the 150L fuel tank is a significant advantage that I just can't go past.
Sure, add and aftermarket long range tank to another make to increase your capacity.
All up that'll cost as much as a toyota in the first place and factory built stuff is always better.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Best value 4 X 4 Reply #13 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 12:17pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 10:20am: but the vote from the experts is toyota. last time I checked a comparison, the Patrol actually outperformed the land cruiser
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Re: Best value 4 X 4
Reply #14 - Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 12:23pm

Sprint, just a few things.
The V8 cruisers are very prone to oil lock at the top of the cams , especially if towing.
Use really high quality oil and filters and change regularly,
My farm toyotas, I change oil and filters every 5k which is way more than recommended but they are bulletproof if you do this,
Air filters too if its dusty,

The flash extras like traction control on the prados sound great and hey are great , but they lead people to lose their off road skills. It's actually quite tricky using good clutch and gear control and momentum to tackle things rather then technology.
Then one day you hop in a bog standard hilux and you're stuffed,

Dual battery is a must.
DON'T stack too much weighty stuff on the roof of tall vehicles like prados. They roll.
Remember as soon as you leave the bitumen, you are in peril.
Wet grass, tyres clagged with thick black mud and you'll be heading sideways down a track before you know it.

Air lockers, mud tyres ( I like mickey Thompson) and a good winch and a set of those plastic tracks.
I've had to use beach towels many times to lay under the tyres to get off bits of Fraser when the sand is powdery.

Really if you have a 4b. , use it, always something new to learn,

My pet hate....carpeted interiors

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