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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #405 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Good for you!! You've made an informed decision on your part for your personal safety & well-being, based on your personal needs & perceptions.

I'm sure there are thousands just like you out there that would do the same.

For all those otherwise, they should have the right to responsibly have the same choice, except if they wish to arm themselves because they feel the need, & feel that government & the police aren't able to meet their security needs, that's a right that government should not stand against them having.

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In this country, I tender that to hold that position stated above is logically flawed.

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #410 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:32am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Good for you!! You've made an informed decision on your part for your personal safety & well-being, based on your personal needs & perceptions.

I'm sure there are thousands just like you out there that would do the same.

For all those otherwise, they should have the right to responsibly have the same choice, except if they wish to arm themselves because they feel the need, & feel that government & the police aren't able to meet their security needs, that's a right that government should not stand against them having.

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In this country, I tender that to hold that position stated above is logically flawed.

THIS SENTIMENT MAKES UTTER SENSE TO ME -------->

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There are no good guns. There are no bad guns.

A gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing.

A gun in the hands of a good man isn't a threat to anyone .......... except a bad guy!

former sig line of, DreamRyderX

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #411 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:36am:

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

I'm assuming that one is a joke.

They can't be serious.

greggerypeccary,

I'm assuming that the life of your daughter isn't worth much - in your eyes ?

That you would see it as [almost] futile to seek to use the most efficient means available to protect her life, and to protect her from criminal violence ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #412 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:45am

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:36am:

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

I'm assuming that one is a joke.

They can't be serious.

greggerypeccary,

I'm assuming that the life of your daughter isn't worth much - in your eyes ?

You've assumed wrong.

How did you reach that conclusion?

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #413 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:36am:

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/1Ue7LuQ.png

I'm assuming that one is a joke.

They can't be serious.

greggerypeccary,

I'm assuming that the life of your daughter isn't worth much - in your eyes ?

You've assumed wrong.

How did you reach that conclusion?

#1,
You demonstrate that you view possession of a firearm for the purpose of self-defence is a 'joke'. post #406

#2,
We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, who are willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #414 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

You're a genius! No, really.

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #415 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:05am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

No.

Errr, you are 'verbal-ling' me.

Surprise, surprise. ......NOT!

greggerypeccary, who is a master debater a master-bater ------>

When confronted by an opponent, in debate, on a public forum, with an argument that you cannot defeat;

Assert [falsely] that your opponent has proposed something which he/she did not.

Dishonesty.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #416 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:07am

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

No.

Errr, you are 'verbal-ling' me.

Surprise, surprise. ......NOT!

greggerypeccary, who is a master debater a master-bater ------>

When confronted by an opponent, in debate, on a public forum, with an argument that you cannot defeat;

Assert [falsely] that your opponent has proposed something which he/she did not.

You don't have a solution then?

You're just trolling.

Genius!

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #417 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

No.

Errr, you are 'verbal-ling' me.

Surprise, surprise. ......NOT!

greggerypeccary, who is a master debater a master-bater ------>

When confronted by an opponent, in debate, on a public forum, with an argument that you cannot defeat;

Assert [falsely] that your opponent has proposed something which he/she did not.

You don't have a solution then?

You're just trolling.

Genius!

G,

Full of dishonesty, you are.

Once upon a time your conscience spoke to you, telling you that you were a transgressor, against truth.

But your conscience does not speak to you any longer, for many years.

To get what you want [in this life], is that [dishonesty] how you conduct yourself in the world ?

1 Timothy 4:2
Speaking lies.....having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Very sad.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #418 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

No.

Errr, you are 'verbal-ling' me.

Surprise, surprise. ......NOT!

greggerypeccary, who is a master debater a master-bater ------>

When confronted by an opponent, in debate, on a public forum, with an argument that you cannot defeat;

Assert [falsely] that your opponent has proposed something which he/she did not.

You don't have a solution then?

You're just trolling.

Genius!

Well, JFYI, in reading a few dozen posts by both of you, Yadda seems head & shoulders above GP when it comes to actually attempting to have actual conversation, whereas GP, IMHO you seem more prone to false anecdotes & evasive one-line retorts.

That said, sometimes a fact or two does sneak in there, but that might be due to a conscience struggling for control.

But hey, that's just my unbiased, honest opinion, which 60% +/- of the players on this forum will probably disagree with for political rather than analytical reasons.

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Re: Why are people against gun ownership?
Reply #419 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:37am

Panther wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

We live in a dangerous world, in which there are many criminals, willing to commit violent acts against our persons.

And your solution is arming untrained, paranoid, nervous people with handguns that the criminals can steal and use against them.

No.

Errr, you are 'verbal-ling' me.

Surprise, surprise. ......NOT!

greggerypeccary, who is a master debater a master-bater ------>

When confronted by an opponent, in debate, on a public forum, with an argument that you cannot defeat;

Assert [falsely] that your opponent has proposed something which he/she did not.

You don't have a solution then?

You're just trolling.

Genius!

Well, JFYI, in reading a few dozen posts by both of you, Yadda seems head & shoulders above GP when it comes to actually attempting to have an actual conversation, whereas GP, IMHO you seem more adept at false anecdotes & evasive one-line retorts. That said, sometimes a fact or tw does sneak in there, but that might be due to a conscience struggling for control.

But hey, that's just my unbiased honest opinion, which 60% +/- of the players on this forum will probably disagree with for political rather than analytical reasons.

Well one may or may not agree with the opinion. I'm disagreeing with the term "unbiased"

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