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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59990 Here Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #15 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 11:57am: B) What would he have them do under a gun? That is where the bravery bit comes in ?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #16 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:45pm We don't know what went on in there - helping someone escape with you might have taken some bravery. If they had a chance to escape and take 1 or 2 with them, it beats staying to try and take everyone, which would have bugger-all chance of success.
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Reply #17 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:21pm:

I only ones who deserves a bravery award is the poor bugger that got executed and the cops that had the guts to storm the shop.

What about the woman killed by the police?

She deserves a massive payment going to her family. Monis and his wife deserve to be chucked into a landfill somewhere.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #18 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:47pm That's not what bravery awards should be given for. Bad luck award for those that died (not the gunman) and Good luck awards for those that survived.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21963 ACT Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #19 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:48pm Julius Abbott wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:09pm: Nile is a nutter. And a religious nutter at that! And WTF does he know what was happening inside, there are a lot of dead heros around! Twit imo!
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #20 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:50pm If I was in there I woulda [insert hero story here]
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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5818 Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #21 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 3:46pm Recognition for surviving a horrific experience, sure. Bravery awards, nah. People perform acts of selfless bravery every day that go unrecognised. The families of those killed should receive compensation. Getting out alive would certainly have been enough for me.
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Reply #22 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 4:21pm

Nile is a jerk who should be ignored. But since when was 'bravery' defined as being taken hostage or getting killed in the process? Sad, yes. But the only one worthy of a heroes medal is the guy trying to get the gun off him. The rest do not.

I have admiration for all those that handled the situation but bravery medals are for actual acts of bravery. Let's not dilute the meaning of yet another word, please.

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Reply #23 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 4:41pm

The last thing I read was that Mr Johnson was shot in the back of the head after the last 5 hostages ran free.

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After initially firing his shotgun after five hostages fled, Monis is understood to have calmly walked towards Mr Johnson — who had his back to Monis — before shooting him in the back of the head.

It was then that the officers entered the cafe and “pumped him with bullets”.

A horrible thing to happen and very sad indeed but we may never know what really happened inside the Lindt cafe.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-siege-gunman-man-haron-monis-wa...

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #24 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:42pm innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:20pm: I should get a bravery award for hanging out on this board, only a real hero would risk his sanity by associating with you lot.
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Reply #25 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm

I can't believe this sexist crap, no self respecting woman in the 21st century wants to be rescued by a man, if you even tried you'd likely get a high heel in the forehead, could you even imagine trying to drag one to safety, decades of gillard like feminist ideology would kick in and they'd be like get your filthy man hands off of me you disgusting cock and balls equipped misogynist scum. Cheesy

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 87685 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: MP says male hostages 'not brave'... Reply #26 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:02pm FSS - the SAS guys who got the VC in Afghanistan were as surprised as anyone else - they just figured they did their job, and any one of their mates would have done the same. My DSC is mounted in the museum with the caption:- "Won by all the Members of the Legion." I don't want it.
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Reply #27 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:13pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:

I can't believe this sexist crap, no self respecting woman in the 21st century wants to be rescued by a man, if you even tried you'd likely get a high heel in the forehead, could you even imagine trying to drag one to safety, decades of gillard like feminist ideology would kick in and they'd be like get your filthy man hands off of me you disgusting cock and balls equipped misogynist scum. Cheesy

rubbish. Still a virgin eh?

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Reply #28 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:14pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Recognition for surviving a horrific experience, sure. Bravery awards, nah. People perform acts of selfless bravery every day that go unrecognised.

The families of those killed should receive compensation.

Getting out alive would certainly have been enough for me.

This.

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Reply #29 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:13pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:

I can't believe this sexist crap, no self respecting woman in the 21st century wants to be rescued by a man, if you even tried you'd likely get a high heel in the forehead, could you even imagine trying to drag one to safety, decades of gillard like feminist ideology would kick in and they'd be like get your filthy man hands off of me you disgusting cock and balls equipped misogynist scum. Cheesy

rubbish. Still a virgin eh?

.. and will not be lectured about misogyny by THAT man!......

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