polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 10:33am:


Silly Y. He seems to think Muslim countries should come to the aid of Palestinian home-owners and farmers with free houses and land grants.

You know, the way we do with all those Christian refugees from the Middle East, Africa and South East Asia.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:55am:


Good questions B - but here's another one - do you think a country has the right to self defense against being walled in - medieval siege style - and have the movement of their people and goods completely under the control of a hostile neighbour?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 12:15pm:


I don't like walls - as a rule, but there is a world of difference between the US's anti-illegal immigrant wall and the wall around Gaza which is specifically designed to restrict the movement and supply of an entire population - complete with buffer zones that cut into and severely impact on agriculture and fishing areas on the Palestinian side of the wall.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 12:15pm:


No schit sherlock

Why do you people continually bring this point up - as if I am somehow assumed to be an apologist for Egypt's complicity in this collective punishment. For the record - a big "f_vck you" to Egypt as well.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:


Rubbish - the Israeli wall gives the Israelis complete control over everything that goes in and out - not just people, but arguably more importantly, goods as well. The Israeli BS that they are only interested in blocking materials that can be used as weapons against Israel has been thoroughly exposed - with the revelation some years back that Israel had a deliberate policy of - in the words of a senior Israeli advisor - "to put the Palestinians on a diet". The Israeli government counted up the number of calories needed for mere survival, and ensured that thats all the Palestinians received. This sort of collective punishment is nothing short of full scale economic warfare - and by keeping the Palestinians on the very brink of starvation, thoroughly dependent on Israel throwing them morsels, is a potent weapon in the war against independence and self determination. The periodic (to date every 2 years or so) military incursions into Gaza is just upping the ante of this same economic war - in Cast Lead, the Israelis bombed water reservoirs, water treatment facilities, and bulldozed the main bread-making mill and the strip's sole chicken factory - along with 10s of thousands of chickens inside.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:


No - the relentless siege against Gaza is suppressing the only effective Palestinian resistance to Israeli land grabs in the West Bank. Arguably the most successful achievement of the Israeli occupation has been to prevent the uniting of Gaza and the WB into the one resistance movement. Divide and conquer - thats occupations 101. While the Fatah quislings are in bed with the Israelis, allowing their land to be carved up by Israeli settlements, the Gazan's represent the only meaningful Palestinian resistance. Israel knows now that they cannot completely suppress them, so they do the next best thing - keep a lid on it, or as the Israelis themselves like to describe it, periodically "mow the grass". It also as the added advantage of continually keeping the world distracted from the far more substantial carving up project in the WB.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:


Is the US's stated goal of the Mexican fence to "put Mexicans on a diet"? Does the US count up every calory required for mere subsistence and ensure Mexicans don't have access to anything else? Lets desist with this absurd little comparison shall we.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:


Red Cross and WHO reports have repeatedly documented malnutrition rates in Gaza. Stop thinking up stupid rhetorical questions baron and look at some actual relevant evidence for once. The quote about putting Palestinians on a diet is from a senior Israeli advisor, and the revelation about the calory count is from a leaked Israeli document - both published by *ALL* the mainstream media. You can also find a list of restricted food items that the Israelis would not allow to enter. Nothing to do with terrorism - as stated by the Israelis themselves. Neither does bulldozing chicken factories along with 10s of thousands of chickens, or flattening the strip's only bread mill have anything to do with defending Israel. Care to mount a defense for those as well?

Also, obesity is a tell-tale sign of malnutrition. Anyone with the most basic understanding of human biology will tell you that.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:


Probably. Was Yitzak Rabin killed because a butthurt jew was upset he made peace with  the Palestinians?

Are you just throwing up random comments to stay in the thread Baron?

How did you go with the Red Cross and/or WHO reports on Gazan malnutrition? What about the common-knowledge Israeli government policy of monitoring the calory count and in their own words "putting the Palestinians on a diet"? Do you accept you were speaking through your arse when you brazenly denied this ever happened?

Whats your position on collective punishment Baron? You do accept that the Gazans are being collectively punished don't you?


Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:


Oh good one Baron - no credible arguments left to make, so you make up sh*t about what I said. Good strategy.

Brain, here are you?