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Reply #195 - Jan 28^th, 2015 at 8:38pm

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 4:47pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Soren wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Paris attacks prompt fresh concerns about online Islamophobia

European Anti-Semitism Gives Way To Islamophobia Following Charlie Hebdo Attack

British Muslim school children suffering a backlash of abuse following Paris attacks

San Franciscans Are Taking on Islamophobic Ads in the Best Possible Way

No Muslim has been killed in Europe, UK, US, Canada, Australia in retaliation for this or other attacks.

Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack'

So if a muslim says Allahu Akbar before blowing stuff up or beheading people it has nothing to do with Islam yet if someone attacks a muslim it's Islamophobia.

If the attacker makes comments about Islam then yes, it's Islamophobia Baron. Cheesy

He was reported to have been diagnosed with schizophrenia as he claimed he had heard voices and officials say that he was found at the scene in an incoherent state.

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Reply #196 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:58am

Soren wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 4:47pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Soren wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Paris attacks prompt fresh concerns about online Islamophobia

European Anti-Semitism Gives Way To Islamophobia Following Charlie Hebdo Attack

British Muslim school children suffering a backlash of abuse following Paris attacks

San Franciscans Are Taking on Islamophobic Ads in the Best Possible Way

No Muslim has been killed in Europe, UK, US, Canada, Australia in retaliation for this or other attacks.

Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack'

So if a muslim says Allahu Akbar before blowing stuff up or beheading people it has nothing to do with Islam yet if someone attacks a muslim it's Islamophobia.

If the attacker makes comments about Islam then yes, it's Islamophobia Baron. Cheesy

He was reported to have been diagnosed with schizophrenia as he claimed he had heard voices and officials say that he was found at the scene in an incoherent state.

Doesn't mean it wasn't an Islamophobic attack Soren.

It's interesting the excuses you're making for this attack Soren. Whenever some has pointed out that possibility that an Islamic attacker may have an underlying mental condition you refuse to listen and put everything down to Islam. Such rank hypocrisy! Grin

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Take Two. Reply #197 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:01am We are talking about an incoherent person here Hot Breathe.
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Reply #198 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:05am

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

We are talking about an incoherent person here Hot Breathe.

So? He made claims about Islam when he mounted his attack. It appears his hatred of Islam was the motivation behind it.

If Soren and other Islamaphobes won't allow an Islamic attacker's mental health to be a factor why should we allow it for an Islamophobic attacker? Is a demand for consistency out of place? Or are you another who wants to make exceptions for non-Muslims? Another hypocrit? Grin

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Reply #199 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:11am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

We are talking about an incoherent person here Hot Breathe.

So? He made claims about Islam when he mounted his attack. It appears his hatred of Islam was the motivation behind it.

If Soren and other Islamaphobes won't allow an Islamic attacker's mental health to be a factor why should we allow it for an Islamophobic attacker? Is a demand for consistency out of place? Or are you another who wants to make exceptions for non-Muslims? Another hypocrit? Grin

I've known people with schizophrenia and they can't plan anything. They are on Mars. Manic depression or another mental disorder is different. The dude that shot up the batman premiere was the same, there is no rhyme or reason but some stupid idea in their head. You can't put this together with a right wing attack or an ISIS terrorist attack. Those people are just cretins. You really should read articles through before you post them.

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Reply #200 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:04pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

We are talking about an incoherent person here Hot Breathe.

So? He made claims about Islam when he mounted his attack. It appears his hatred of Islam was the motivation behind it.

If Soren and other Islamaphobes won't allow an Islamic attacker's mental health to be a factor why should we allow it for an Islamophobic attacker? Is a demand for consistency out of place? Or are you another who wants to make exceptions for non-Muslims? Another hypocrit? Grin

I've known people with schizophrenia and they can't plan anything. They are on Mars. Manic depression or another mental disorder is different. The dude that shot up the batman premiere was the same, there is no rhyme or reason but some stupid idea in their head. You can't put this together with a right wing attack or an ISIS terrorist attack. Those people are just cretins. You really should read articles through before you post them.

There was suspicion that the Canadian war memorial attacker was mentally ill as was Man Haron Monis in Sydney. The New York axe attacker was also believed to be mentally ill. When this has been brought up by some Soren/FD/Baron/Matty/Yadda/Sprint/Moses/et al. all declared this "apologism" and "making excuses", Islam was the cause and the only cause.

Therefore, consistency suggests that mental illness cannot be used as an excuse for any crime, religious or other inspired. If this Islamophobe was mentally ill it was his Islamophobia which inspired him and that is all that should be considered.

This is a black and white world we live in, according to the Islamophobes. Which means we now judged all by their religious/political inspiration and nothing more! Grin

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131483 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Take Two. Reply #201 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:06pm \|dev\|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:04pm: This is a black and white world we live in, according to the Islamophobes. And they're not too keen on the 'black'.
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Take Two. Reply #202 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:06pm: \|dev\|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:04pm: This is a black and white world we live in, according to the Islamophobes. And they're not too keen on the 'black'. Well we know they hate any shade of grey. How about "white and white", then?
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Reply #203 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

Soren wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 4:47pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 28^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Soren wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Paris attacks prompt fresh concerns about online Islamophobia

European Anti-Semitism Gives Way To Islamophobia Following Charlie Hebdo Attack

British Muslim school children suffering a backlash of abuse following Paris attacks

San Franciscans Are Taking on Islamophobic Ads in the Best Possible Way

No Muslim has been killed in Europe, UK, US, Canada, Australia in retaliation for this or other attacks.

Moroccan man in France killed at home in front of wife in 'horrible Islamophobic attack'

So if a muslim says Allahu Akbar before blowing stuff up or beheading people it has nothing to do with Islam yet if someone attacks a muslim it's Islamophobia.

If the attacker makes comments about Islam then yes, it's Islamophobia Baron. Cheesy

He was reported to have been diagnosed with schizophrenia as he claimed he had heard voices and officials say that he was found at the scene in an incoherent state.

Doesn't mean it wasn't an Islamophobic attack Soren.

It's interesting the excuses you're making for this attack Soren. Whenever some has pointed out that possibility that an Islamic attacker may have an underlying mental condition you refuse to listen and put everything down to Islam. Such rank hypocrisy! Grin

I am just quoting from the article you posted, numpty.

Also from the article:

"Abdallah Zekri [president of he National Observatory Against Islamophobia] condemned the attack “as a horrible Islamophobic attack”

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"Police said yesterday that the claims of Islamophobia will be investigated when they start questioning the attacker."

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Take Two. Reply #204 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:51pm Which presumably means you endorse that viewpoint Soren! None of the criticism you had when all those "Islamic" attackers were found to be suffering from mental illness... Such a hypocrite you are!
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Reply #205 - Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:17pm

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

all those "Islamic" attackers were found to be suffering from mental illness...

Who are 'all those' mental patients? New York, Bali, London, Madrid bombers? No. Mumbai mass murderers? No. London beheaders, Canadian, Sydney, Fort Hood bastards? No. Charlie murderers? No. Sydney rioters in 2012? No. Who then?

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Reply #206 - Jan 30^th, 2015 at 11:38am

Soren wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

all those "Islamic" attackers were found to be suffering from mental illness...

Who are 'all those' mental patients?

Mental illness was mentioned as a possible cause in several of the attacks Soren but you automatically discarded it every time, declaring that Islam was the only cause, ever that could be considered!

Now, we wouldn't want you to be seen to be inconsistant, now would we? Grin

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Reply #207 - Jan 30^th, 2015 at 11:54am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

all those "Islamic" attackers were found to be suffering from mental illness...

Who are 'all those' mental patients?

Mental illness was mentioned as a possible cause in several of the attacks Soren

For example?

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Reply #208 - Jan 30^th, 2015 at 8:19pm

Soren wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 29^th, 2015 at 12:51pm:

all those "Islamic" attackers were found to be suffering from mental illness...

Who are 'all those' mental patients?

Mental illness was mentioned as a possible cause in several of the attacks Soren

For example?

How about in this posting, Soren? And this one?. In both, you clearly discard the possibility of mental illness as a contributing factor to the attack in Ottawa.

Then, for the New York Axe attack we have you questioning the possibility of underlying mental illness being the cause, Soren.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Roll Eyes

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 39511 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Take Two. Reply #209 - Jan 30^th, 2015 at 8:21pm Is it that all the nutters go to islam, or that islam makes nutters ?
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