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Reply #120 - Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:26pm

http://deathpenaltynews.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/capital-punishment-no-violation-...

"Capital Punishment No Violation of Human Rights": Indonesia Narcotics Chief

Jakarta. Executing people for drug-related crimes is not a violation of human rights, the chief of National Narcotics Agency (BNN) said on Tuesday at a discussion on the matter.

Admitting that the measure continues to be controversial, Comr. Gen. Anang Iskandar said that as long as the punishment was based on a court order, “there is nothing wrong about sentencing a drug convict to death,” Tempo.co reported.

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There's plenty wrong with sentencing a drug convict to death.
It most certainly is a violation of human rights.

He should be given another job and replaced with someone who understands the modern world and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

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Tedjo Edhy Purdjianto, the coordinating minister for political, legal and security affairs, explained that many people simply do not understand the reasons why someone is sentenced to death.

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Yes they do, they understand only too well.
'Hate', 'revenge', 'defiance', 'totally misguided ideas' etc.

He should be replaced by someone who understands what's required of nations professing not to be human rights wastelands today.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #121 - Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet
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Reply #122 - Dec 30^th, 2014 at 6:10am

ian wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet

Thought you might have.
You won't have to wait long, they're going to execution-slaughter within days some Africans from grinding poverty who made a mistake smuggling drugs.

Maybe Chan and Sukumaran too, although they seem to be in line for shredding early in January.
Not one word or action of protest from Abbott, Bishop and Co.

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Reply #123 - Dec 30^th, 2014 at 6:22am

ian wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet

Be careful what you wish for...it could be you one day on death row awaiting the noose or bullets.

Good luck with your travel in Asia.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/816589.stm

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A British nurse charged with drug smuggling in Malaysia has been sentenced to death by hanging.

Father-of-two David Chell, 57, from Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, was found guilty of possession of more than half a kilo of heroin.

Mr Chell, who says the heroin was planted on him, is to appeal against the sentence.
Mr Chell, a psychiatric nurse, was charged after an airport guard claimed to have discovered drugs on him as he prepared to board a flight to Australia in October 1998.

Customs officers at Penang Airport in northern Malaysia say they found the drugs in Mr Chell's underwear.
But Mr Chell said one of the security officers produced the bag of heroin from underneath a cushion in the airport examination room where he was taken.

Mr Chell's appeal could take several years.
In 1986 Malaysia executed two Australians, Kevin Barlow and Brian Chambers, for drug trafficking.

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Reply #124 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:40pm

Abbott, Bishop, Hockey, Pine and the rest of the Abbott govt must be booted out at the next election...as useless they are...are just gonna do nothing to Joko and his cohorts and the 'Muslim organisations' in Indonesia when Chan and Sukumaran are execution-slaughtered by Muslim Indonesia soon.
I most certainly won't ever be voting for them again.

http://www.news.com.au/world/bali-nine-australians-andrew-chan-and-myuran-sukuma...

Bali Nine Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran to be executed together in Bali

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Abbott govt, para;

"We wrote a letter to the Indonesia govt thru the highest diplomatic channels...they wrote back saying "NO" to our request".

NOW you should be picking up the phone and TELLING them that you'll MAKE them sorry if they execution shred our two citizens!

Abbott govt is useless, boot them out!
I had high hopes when they were elected, they've let me down terribly.

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Reply #125 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:56pm

bambu wrote on Dec 30^th, 2014 at 6:22am:

ian wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet

Be careful what you wish for...it could be you one day on death row awaiting the noose or bullets.

Good luck with your travel in Asia.

rubbish. I dont smuggle drugs and everyone always claims the were "planted on them" when caught at the airport. Dont smuggle drugs, nil issues. End of story.

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Reply #126 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 6:25pm

ian wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

bambu wrote on Dec 30^th, 2014 at 6:22am:

ian wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet

Be careful what you wish for...it could be you one day on death row awaiting the noose or bullets.

Good luck with your travel in Asia.

rubbish. I dont smuggle drugs and everyone always claims the were "planted on them" when caught at the airport. Dont smuggle drugs, nil issues. End of story.

David Chell didn't smuggle drugs either...and he wound up on death row in Asia;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/816589.stm

British nurse sentenced to death

A British nurse charged with drug smuggling in Malaysia has been sentenced to death by hanging.
Father-of-two David Chell, 57, from Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, was found guilty of possession of more than half a kilo of heroin.

Mr Chell, who says the heroin was planted on him, is to appeal against the sentence.

Customs officers at Penang Airport in northern Malaysia say they found the drugs in Mr Chell's underwear.

But Mr Chell said one of the security officers produced the bag of heroin from underneath a cushion in the airport examination room where he was taken.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1311588/Death-row-Briton-freed-after-appe...

Death row Briton freed after appeal judges condemn trial

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Wonder how many other people have been set up in the same way in Asia and execution-slaughtered etc?
It will never happen to me...as I'll never ever ever ever be setting foot in Asia/SE Asia anywhere.
You're welcome to Asia/SE Asia.

People should stay right out of Asia/SE Asia...there's absolutely nothing there worth risking one's happiness for.

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Reply #127 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 1:48am

bambu wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

ian wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

bambu wrote on Dec 30^th, 2014 at 6:22am:

ian wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ive got the champagne ready, if only we were allowed to apply to fire the bullet

Be careful what you wish for...it could be you one day on death row awaiting the noose or bullets.

Good luck with your travel in Asia.

rubbish. I dont smuggle drugs and everyone always claims the were "planted on them" when caught at the airport. Dont smuggle drugs, nil issues. End of story.

David Chell didn't smuggle drugs either...and he wound up on death row in Asia;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/816589.stm

British nurse sentenced to death

A British nurse charged with drug smuggling in Malaysia has been sentenced to death by hanging.
Father-of-two David Chell, 57, from Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, was found guilty of possession of more than half a kilo of heroin.

Mr Chell, who says the heroin was planted on him, is to appeal against the sentence.

Customs officers at Penang Airport in northern Malaysia say they found the drugs in Mr Chell's underwear.

But Mr Chell said one of the security officers produced the bag of heroin from underneath a cushion in the airport examination room where he was taken.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1311588/Death-row-Briton-freed-after-appe...

Death row Briton freed after appeal judges condemn trial

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Wonder how many other people have been set up in the same way in Asia and execution-slaughtered etc?
It will never happen to me...as I'll never ever ever ever be setting foot in Asia/SE Asia anywhere.
You're welcome to Asia/SE Asia.

[b]People should stay right out of Asia/SE Asia...there's absolutely nothing there worth risking one's happiness for. [/b]

Well.. there's always excellent poontang....

And young women happy to shack up with an older guy for a better life!

.. and the curries..

(Yeah - the curries!).....

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Reply #128 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:40am

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Well.. there's always excellent poontang....

And young women happy to shack up with an older guy for a better life!

.. and the curries..

(Yeah - the curries!).....

Ah yes, the 'third world' lifestyle.
Ok if one likes that sort of thing, as a foreigner.

When it's time to go home...as it is in most cases...there's much misery and also suicides.

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Reply #130 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 11:51am

And now we come right down to it...
death day.

The premeditated, cold-blooded killing of human beings in [outdoor] death chambers by Muslim Indonesia.

The day when Muslim Indonesia, to whom Australia gives billions of its tax dollars every few years, and billions more in special grants...Australia's so called "great future together" good friend........will drag the two Aussie boys from their cells for execution-slaughter.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/grim-execution-awaits-bali-nine-australians-an...

TAKEN to a remote floodlit clearing in the dead of night, strapped to a wooden cross with only a dark bag over their heads to stop them staring down the barrel of a gun.

This is the grim fate Bali Nine ringleaders Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan may have ahead of them as the Indonesian government warns the pair will be executed together once both their clemency pleas have been rejected.
THE first executions under Indonesia’s new government will take place shortly after midnight, in a chilling portent of the fate awaiting Bali Nine masterminds Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran.

Five foreigners are among the six condemned, all of whom are on drugs charges.
Chan and Sukumaran’s destiny now hangs on a clemency bid currently before Indonesian President Jokowi Widodo, after authorities confirmed on Thursday night the pair would be executed together.

Like Brazillian inmate Marco Moreira, who is listed for execution tonight, this is the moment that awaits the two Bali Nine Australians.
When Moreira found out about his fate, he was sitting in front of three Indonesian officials who delivered him the news.

Condemned ... Brazillian Marco Moreira learns that his execution is pending. He is one of six people to be executed at midnight. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied

Sukumaran and Chan’s Australian lawyer, Julian McMahon, said yesterday this weekend’s executions were chilling.
“It seemed impossible to be true that they would take out these people on the weekend and just shoot them. That was my first reaction,” Mr McMahon said.

“And if that seemed impossible, it also seemed impossible that the two clients whose stories I know so well, that there could be the possibility of such an unjust execution.”

Mr McMahon said he had confidence Tony Abbott or foreign minister Julie Bishop would fight to save the lives of the two young Australians. However, the Prime Minister said earlier this month that while he would make “the strongest possible diplomatic representations” his government was not going to jeopardise relations with Indonesia.

ANDREW CHAN: Crushed by news of Myuran Sukumaran facing firing squad

MYURAN’S MOTHER: Shocked by news of her son’s execution

Bali Nine mother's desperate heartache for a son on death row.
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Reply #131 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 12:12pm

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tony-abbotts-mercy-plea-to-indonesian-pr...

Tony Abbott's mercy plea to Indonesian President Joko Widodo - don't kill Australians

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has urged Joko Widodo to show mercy to Myuran Sukumaran, who faces death by firing squad after his appeal for clemency was rejected by the Indonesian leader.

Part of an ongoing campaign to save the life of Sukumaran and fellow heroin smuggler Andrew Chan, the revelation of Mr Abbott's plea comes as six drug offenders, including five foreigners, are slated to be killed by the Indonesian government on Sunday.

"The Australian government will continue to make representations to seek to avoid the execution of the two Australians on death row in Indonesia," a spokesperson for Mr Abbott said.
Indonesian officials confirmed Australia had made "several approaches to all levels [of the Indonesian government]".

"Basically they tried their utmost, they asked us to reconsider our decisions because their citizens have shown remorse, have expressed their deepest regrets," said foreign ministry spokesman Arrmanatha Nasir.

He added the Australian government had reassured Indonesia that this would not disturb bilateral diplomatic relations.

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Pathetic!
You don't tell them THAT!
You tell them that you'll cross them off our friends list forever, ...that they'll never get one more cent in aid money, never get one more head of cattle, not one more cent to build Islamic schools, not anymore anything.

You tell them the phone will be cut off, and that they can forget about defence pacts, free trade agreements and even one more grain of love coming from Australia.

You tell them that their ambassador will be booted out, ...along with all their nationals, including students...and all flights to and from Bali will be banned.

And mean it!

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #133 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:18pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:04pm: I'll be happy to see both Chan and Sukumuran dead. Then you really should hand in your Australian citizenship and passport and go live somewhere else.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143967 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #134 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:19pm Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:09am: I do not and will not support the DP for drugs, and have no time for those who do. Well, if you were an uneducated, ignorant fool, who thrives on bloodlust, you'd certainly think differently.
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