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Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:56pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

'Twas in the OP, but here goes from elsewhere.....

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During the Howard Government (1996–2007), Ruddock served continuously in the Coalition Ministry, taking on various portfolios, most notably those of Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs from 1996 until 2003

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:59pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

Yes he was. Roddock was also immigration minister when the Iranians sent warnings about Monis in 2000. He was also immigration minister when Monis was awarded his asylum visa in 2001.

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:00pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

Yes.

More importantly, though, he was the immigration minister when he was granted political asylum.

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Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:19pm

Philip Ruddock would have taken advice and acted like any other immigration minister who was faced with a similar predicament.....Those on the right have criticised the ALP for allowing refugees into the country although most have been no problem every time an individual of ethnic origins does something heinous both sides rush to point the finger flaming the issue and igniting racial tension!!!

There are disturbed individuals living in our society who pose a risk and need to be monitored by law enforcement but that is expensive and in most cases unnecessary.....If you want to lay blame look at yourselves and the hysteria you are creating over the act of one mad man!!!

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

Yes.

More importantly, though, he was the immigration minister when he was granted political asylum.

And did the Australian Government ever listen to any 'warnings' Iran has sent??? Someone mentioned the extradition request from Iran, but Australia does NOT have an extradition treaty with Iran, so why would we listen?

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians, what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Depends...was Ruddock the immigration minister in 1996 when this idiot arrived here?

Yes.

More importantly, though, he was the immigration minister when he was granted political asylum.

And under that idea, Peter Garrett and Wayne Swann should both have been sacked too ( not to mention Craig Thomson)

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians, what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

It is self evident that in this case, we should have, yeas?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians, what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

It is self evident that in this case, we should have, yeas?

Noe it's NOT.
Besides, IF the Government HAD...Labor and the Greens would have spent ages screaming about sending a 'poor innocent man' back to be tortured and killed by the 'evil Iranian' Government.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #12 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians,what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

Not a student of history are you?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #13 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:54pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians,what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

Not a student of history are you?

You have a point, don't you?

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Re: Should Abbott Sack Philip Ruddock?
Reply #14 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Is anyone else offended by the thought that the person who was the immigration minister who let Man Monis into the country and gave him an asylum visa despite warnings from Iran that he was a violent maniac gets to continue to be a member of the government drawing a huge salary and all the perks that go with it?

As the government's chief whip, Ruddock earns 26% extra above the base mp salary.

Disgusting!

Shouldn't there be an inquiry into how much Ruddock knew about the Iranian Government's warnings?

Yeah, we should take more notice of the Iranians,what with them being beacons of peace and justice and goodness in their hearts and all, right?

Not a student of history are you?

You have a point, don't you?

Yes I do

Can you guess what it is?

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