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Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution
Reply #30 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 2:57pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

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Every Aboriginal person I know who is receiving the dole is required to abide by the same conditions as the rest of Australia. That includes looking for work and attending job interviews.

rubbish. They are not required and very few do. There are separate conditions for aboriginal people.

"News for Indigenous Australians"

"Job seeker payments will be suspended and you will not be able to report if you miss an appointment with your provider."

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/themes/indigenous-australians

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Reply #31 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 3:25pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

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Every Aboriginal person I know who is receiving the dole is required to abide by the same conditions as the rest of Australia. That includes looking for work and attending job interviews.

rubbish. They are not required and very few do. There are separate conditions for aboriginal people.

Correct.

It's called 'sit-down money'.

No work? No worries.

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Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution
Reply #32 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 3:28pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 3:25pm:

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

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Every Aboriginal person I know who is receiving the dole is required to abide by the same conditions as the rest of Australia. That includes looking for work and attending job interviews.

rubbish. They are not required and very few do. There are separate conditions for aboriginal people.

Correct.

It's called 'sit-down money'.

No work? No worries.

It's completely incorrect.

However, if you'd like to substantiate your claim ...

(Who am I kidding? - the Troll King has never substantiated a claim in his life.)

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Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution
Reply #33 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 3:25pm:

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

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Every Aboriginal person I know who is receiving the dole is required to abide by the same conditions as the rest of Australia. That includes looking for work and attending job interviews.

rubbish. They are not required and very few do. There are separate conditions for aboriginal people.

Correct.

It's called 'sit-down money'.

No work? No worries.

Keep plugging away at that falsehood Herb

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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution Reply #34 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:16pm Raven wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:07pm: Keep plugging away at that falsehood Herb It's the ol' bait-and-hook, Journeyman Raven. It's a ye olde fishing tactic King Herb has adapted for internet use.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution Reply #35 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:20pm MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:16pm: Raven wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 4:07pm: Keep plugging away at that falsehood Herb It's the ol' bait-and-hook, Journeyman Raven. It's a ye olde fishing tactic King Herb has adapted for internet use. Indeed.
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Reply #36 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 5:04pm

I've struggled to find the sentences which confirm that indigenous Australians are under the same official threat as the rest of us that if they do not satisfy their reciprocal obligations to look for work and attend interviews their dole payments will be gradually reduced.

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There's so much unnecessary verbiage to wade through that I simply gave up.

There are urbanised aborigines who should be under the same obligations as the rest of us, but there are also a sizable number of bush and rural aborigines who I believe should not be threatened with reduced benefits for non-compliance with the strict interpretations of the rules.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10277 Gender:	Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution Reply #37 - Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 7:27pm Once the first people have been recognised then we need to recognise the second people. After that, we then need to amend the constitution further to recognise the third people, and then the fourth, then the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and so on. This is progress.
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Reply #38 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 1:16am

ian wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 12:39am:

these are 'plans". You know what government "plans" are dont you?

Plans which are being implemented. Figured out yet why Morrison has been moved to Social Security? Roll Eyes

There is talk that the ultimate purpose of these plans is to force Indigenes to abandon their living in remote communities and force them into the cities, therefore leaving traditional lands vacant so the mining corporations can move in. While I generally don't believe in conspiracy theories, there appears to be some sense in this one. Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution
Reply #39 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 7:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 1:16am:

ian wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 12:39am:

these are 'plans". You know what government "plans" are dont you?

Plans which are being implemented. Figured out yet why Morrison has been moved to Social Security? Roll Eyes

There is talk that the ultimate purpose of these plans is to force Indigenes to abandon their living in remote communities and force them into the cities, therefore leaving traditional lands vacant so the mining corporations can move in. While I generally don't believe in conspiracy theories, there appears to be some sense in this one. Roll Eyes

Wow. That's a hell of a stretch, Brian, but you may be right.

But the mining and fracking companies would have to pay the indigenous land-owners a very substantial rental and royalty fee ... meaning the local aborigines would have no need to look for work in Australia's industrial heartlands.

Wouldn't that be a win-win situation?

Rural and Remote aborigines should not be cattle-trucked to the cities to form bigger and more black ghettoes with their crime and drug-dealing.

This guy says it best about the BASTARDS who won't LEAVE THE ABORIGINES ALONE to get on with their lives without being exploited by these BASTARDS who don't care a sh*t how they feel ...

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Re: Constitution to become Coonstitution
Reply #40 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 8:34am

ian wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 12:46am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 12:29am:

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 10:36pm:

Australia is not their country, it is ours, Aboriginal people didnt have a country, they were tribal people separated by different cultural traditions and languages who happened to live here and did nothing to develop the country for upwards of 50,000 years. They didnt even know it was a country. If we do recognise them in the constitution we should also recognise their contribution to the making of Australia (zero) and their contribution to current Australia (crime, drunkeness, indolence etc.)

Spoken like a racist. Without the contribution provided by Indigenous workers, the cattle and sheep industries would not be what they are today. Indigenous stockmen have long been used in those industries. Further, most Indigenes are not perpetrators of "crime, drunkeness [or] indolence".

Time you pulled your head out of the gutter and went out and looked a rural and remote Australia. Ever been to Broome? Most of the population is Indigenes. They work successfully in all the industries of the North-West and the Top End. Indeed, most of those industries would cease to function if the Indigenes withdrew their labour. Your attempt to characterise them in such terms is racism at it's worst. Roll Eyes

ROFL!!!! You ever been to Broome? Obviously not. Lololololoolooll

Yes, I had a good laugh at that too.

Abos riot every weekend and twice on Thursdays, but somehow they're still model citizens.

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In the fullness of time...

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