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Reply #30 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:24pm

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

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Do you want to ban people from having fetishes, bobby?

How would you do that, exactly?

How would you stop men from shitting in their mothers' handbags, in the privacy of their own homes?

this thread isnt about shitting in handbags, its about pedophiles buying sex toys simulating young children for the purpose of living out their pedophile fanatasies.

Do you want to ban fantasies?

no. I want to ban people buying and owning life sized child mannikins in order to perpetrate pedophile fantasies. Is my position clear now?

Given the choice of having a pedophile out on the street, with his balls full, and a pedophile locked away in his own room, with a piece of plastic that he uses to relieve his frustration, I know what I'd prefer.

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Reply #31 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

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Do you want to ban people from having fetishes, bobby?

How would you do that, exactly?

How would you stop men from shitting in their mothers' handbags, in the privacy of their own homes?

this thread isnt about shitting in handbags, its about pedophiles buying sex toys simulating young children for the purpose of living out their pedophile fanatasies.

Do you want to ban fantasies?

no. I want to ban people buying and owning life sized child mannikins in order to perpetrate pedophile fantasies. Is my position clear now?

Given the choice of having a pedophile out on the street, with his balls full, and a pedophile locked away in his own room, with a piece of plastic that he uses to relieve his frustration, I know what I'd prefer.

Don't say any more Mr Peccary. Wait for ian to tell you what he knew would be said.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: should this be allowed? (warning may offend) Reply #32 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:41pm I will offer a more detailed response later, I have things to do now.
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Reply #33 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:47pm

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. A great deal of moral outrage and hysteria which has been whipped up over what in reality is very little.

Everybody has their own private sex fantasies. Some sicker than others. Paedophilia is unlawful. However, for such a thing to be judged Paedophilia, a live human child must be involved. This is a sex toy. If the Paedophile had imported a rubber vagina, and fantasised about it being that of a young female child, would the authorities have known and stopped it? So what if that rubber vagina is surrounded by plastic in the shape of a human body? How does that really change things?

Paedophiles are sick individuals. They need help. However, charging him with Paedophilia over a rubber doll? I'm sorry, that is simply ridiculous. Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 5:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. A great deal of moral outrage and hysteria which has been whipped up over what in reality is very little.

Everybody has their own private sex fantasies. Some sicker than others. Paedophilia is unlawful. However, for such a thing to be judged Paedophilia, a live human child must be involved. This is a sex toy. If the Paedophile had imported a rubber vagina, and fantasised about it being that of a young female child, would the authorities have known and stopped it? So what if that rubber vagina is surrounded by plastic in the shape of a human body? How does that really change things?

Paedophiles are sick individuals. They need help. However, charging him with Paedophilia over a rubber doll? I'm sorry, that is simply ridiculous. Roll Eyes

ian knew you were going to say that, and he is having a rest to prepare the next thing you will say.

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Reply #36 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 5:33pm

Seriously, what people get up to in the privacy of their own homes/bedrooms is nobodies business as long as no one gets hurt and in this case the plastic doll has no feeling. Don't tell our pedo friend that though, I wouldn't be surprised if the thing cries, it's freaking sick.

Do the adult sex dolls have recorded messages/sounds built in? Wouldn't it be fun if you get hold of someones ( wear rubber gloves) and put a different tape in.......eeeer little weaner (laughing)

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Reply #37 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 5:58pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 3:46pm:

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a bit of plastic

- that happens to look like a child with genital orifices for pumping.

This must be the End Times.

I am the only sane person left.

I doubt that Sir Bobby. But....it will be interesting to see how that prosecution fares.

I posted it on my End Times thread:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298455599/675#684

what more evidence do we need?

That you copied it into some other Thread is evidence of what?

Further evidence that this is the End Times.

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Reply #38 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 6:05pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. A great deal of moral outrage and hysteria which has been whipped up over what in reality is very little.

Everybody has their own private sex fantasies. Some sicker than others. Paedophilia is unlawful. However, for such a thing to be judged Paedophilia, a live human child must be involved. This is a sex toy. If the Paedophile had imported a rubber vagina, and fantasised about it being that of a young female child, would the authorities have known and stopped it? So what if that rubber vagina is surrounded by plastic in the shape of a human body? How does that really change things?

Paedophiles are sick individuals. They need help. However, charging him with Paedophilia over a rubber doll? I'm sorry, that is simply ridiculous. Roll Eyes

ian knew you were going to say that, and he is having a rest to prepare the next thing you will say.

Ah. OK, so now we are all glove puppets? Wink

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Reply #39 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Given the choice of having a pedophile out on the street, with his balls full, and a pedophile locked away in his own room, with a piece of plastic that he uses to relieve his frustration, I know what I'd prefer.

I see a bigger picture in this than simply the need to relieve someones sexual frustration, I would say your point depends on pedophilia being viewed as a valid sexual orientation and you also presume that if denied the opportunity to releive their sexual frustration in this way then these predators would invariably be out on the street looking for kids to rape. Do you know any heterosexuals with unreleived sexual urges? Are they all out on the street looking for women to rape? See the difference? Ever masturbated Greg like most males or is your first resort to either buy sex or rape a woman? Pedophilia by its nature is predatory behaviour and not just about sexual urges. we know this because many of those who have been chemically castrated in countries which allow it still have been shown to prey on children. I just dont know where people get this idea that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and nothing else, it is implicit in the human genetic code to protect children, there have been studies done which shows this is the case except for a small group of individuals in society. ( psychopaths). We need to draw a line in the sand in my opinion on this or we will never win the battle against these predators, My opinion we should not tolerate something because its too hard to police, the line should be zero tolerance towards pedophiles and the message needs to be tougher, a lot tougher. I think capitulating because the alternative is rape of our kids is an easy way out for us but not for the long term, giving thee predators the message that they can legally buy aids to continually reinforce ther behaviour is probably about the worst thing we can, ts like continually giving heroin to a drug addict

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Reply #40 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:31pm

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Given the choice of having a pedophile out on the street, with his balls full, and a pedophile locked away in his own room, with a piece of plastic that he uses to relieve his frustration, I know what I'd prefer.

I see a bigger picture in this than simply the need to relieve someones sexual frustration, I would say your point depends on pedophilia being viewed as a valid sexual orientation and you also presume that if denied the opportunity to releive their sexual frustration in this way then these predators would invariably be out on the street looking for kids to rape. Do you know any heterosexuals with unreleived sexual urges? Are they all out on the street looking for women to rape? See the difference? Ever masturbated Greg like most males or is your first resort to either buy sex or rape a woman? Pedophilia by its nature is predatory behaviour and not just about sexual urges. we know this because many of those who have been chemically castrated in countries which allow it still have been shown to prey on children. I just dont know where people get this idea that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and nothing else, it is implicit in the human genetic code to protect children, there have been studies done which shows this is the case except for a small group of individuals in society. ( psychopaths). We need to draw a line in the sand in my opinion on this or we will never win the battle against these predators, My opinion we should not tolerate something because its too hard to police, the line should be zero tolerance towards pedophiles and the message needs to be tougher, a lot tougher. I think capitulating because the alternative is rape of our kids is an easy way out for us but not for the long term, giving thee predators the message that they can legally buy aids to continually reinforce ther behaviour is probably about the worst thing we can, ts like continually giving heroin to a drug addict

I knew you knew that I would know that you'd say just that. So, I know you know that I already know you know what my next point is. Your answer to it, please ian?

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: should this be allowed? (warning may offend) Reply #41 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:31pm On another point, in my opinion a pedophile who has acted out his fantasies towards a child or children more than once should be classed as a predatory psychopath and not a pedophile, they share much of the characteristics.
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Reply #42 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:54pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 2:57am:

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 1:31am:

Sydney man fighting charges for allegedly owning a child-sized sex doll
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ALLEGED pedophiles are importing lifelike silicon sex dolls in the shape of children as young as 12 and labelling them as movie props in an attempt to fool authorities.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-man-fighting-charges-for-allegedly-owning-a-childsized-sex-doll/story-fni0cx12-1227116230985?nk=306ce646567bf3d7b09a17b4e335ebfb#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-masthead-feature%7C2%7Cheading%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1415460384780

Weird on both sides. Weird for wanting one and weird for authorities thinking they are kids that will be abused.

Cartoon and text-based child pornography is also illegal, even though no children are directly harmed. There was a case recently of a guy getting convicted for possessing "simpsons porn".

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Reply #43 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 6:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. A great deal of moral outrage and hysteria which has been whipped up over what in reality is very little.

Everybody has their own private sex fantasies. Some sicker than others. Paedophilia is unlawful. However, for such a thing to be judged Paedophilia, a live human child must be involved. This is a sex toy. If the Paedophile had imported a rubber vagina, and fantasised about it being that of a young female child, would the authorities have known and stopped it? So what if that rubber vagina is surrounded by plastic in the shape of a human body? How does that really change things?

Paedophiles are sick individuals. They need help. However, charging him with Paedophilia over a rubber doll? I'm sorry, that is simply ridiculous. Roll Eyes

ian knew you were going to say that, and he is having a rest to prepare the next thing you will say.

Ah. OK, so now we are all glove puppets? Wink

Hands up all those who are glove puppets

... wait a minute...... I'll get back to you... gotta have a talk with my writers....

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Reply #44 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 8:02pm

freediver wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 2:57am:

ian wrote on Nov 9^th, 2014 at 1:31am:

Sydney man fighting charges for allegedly owning a child-sized sex doll
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ALLEGED pedophiles are importing lifelike silicon sex dolls in the shape of children as young as 12 and labelling them as movie props in an attempt to fool authorities.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-man-fighting-charges-for-allegedly-owning-a-childsized-sex-doll/story-fni0cx12-1227116230985?nk=306ce646567bf3d7b09a17b4e335ebfb#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-masthead-feature%7C2%7Cheading%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1415460384780

Weird on both sides. Weird for wanting one and weird for authorities thinking they are kids that will be abused.

Cartoon and text-based child pornography is also illegal, even though no children are directly harmed. There was a case recently of a guy getting convicted for possessing "simpsons porn".

Indeed it is, and yet you specifically allowed it here and elsewhere at PA. You even ridiculed my public advice to you along those precise lines.

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