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Reply #45 - Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:49pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:34pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:20pm:
issuevoter wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 7:13am:
There is a lot of criticism in the OP that I would go along with, but it is also as fanatical as anything written by the PC police.


Is it? Can you state the conservative authors currently taught in academia?


Maybe there's a message there that you don't quite get, Misty. Perhaps they should stick with Mills and Boon.



I get it, all-right. If you're familiar with how the softer sciences operated before and after the 1960s, the op becomes very clear. "Progressives" probably think the social sciences have always been as they are now and always should be as they currently are. This just goes to show how successful the 1960's radicals were in squeezing out contrary views and dumbing down analytical thinking.   


You realise how paranoid you sound? 1960's and before, at least 50 years ago. Strange...
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Reply #46 - Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:34pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:20pm:
issuevoter wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 7:13am:
There is a lot of criticism in the OP that I would go along with, but it is also as fanatical as anything written by the PC police.


Is it? Can you state the conservative authors currently taught in academia?


Maybe there's a message there that you don't quite get, Misty. Perhaps they should stick with Mills and Boon.



I get it, all-right. If you're familiar with how the softer sciences operated before and after the 1960s, the op becomes very clear. "Progressives" probably think the social sciences have always been as they are now and always should be as they currently are. This just goes to show how successful the 1960's radicals were in squeezing out contrary views and dumbing down analytical thinking.   


You realise how paranoid you sound? 1960's and before, at least 50 years ago. Strange...


Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".
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Reply #47 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 12:25am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".


Dodge what? Life moves on, things change, and you can't deal with it? Yes, let's hunker down and be conservative rather than move out and find solutions.

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Reply #48 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 3:28am
 
The  'solutions' of the progressives are the cause of a lot of the world's problems.
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Re: The Origins of Political Correctness
Reply #49 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 4:59am
 
Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 3:28am:
The  'solutions' of the progressives are the cause of a lot of the world's problems.

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If it weren't for progressives, we'd still be getting around by horse and buggy - and probably on square wheels

When did progress begin to cause the "world's problems" ?





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Reply #50 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 7:58am
 
I'm proud to be a Progo from Muskogo,
A place where all the squares don't get a call
Old Glory still gets burnt down by the court-house
White Lightning's for king hitters in the mall...


Yes - we've come a long way - now we have the term Socio-Fascism.... the Neo-fascist imposition on the masses in the name of Socialist equality etc.... do it our way or be punished.... SS - DD. We're all equal apart from those who do not agree.... and they are worthy only of punishment, re-education and disposal for the better good of the majority.

If anyone doesn't go along with the Right Way, we'll remove their legal protections using legal chicanery, set some watchdog on them, take away their right to equal treatment in procuring work etc, their right to earn a decent life and retirement, chop away at the foundation of their life, livelihood and civilisation, and fling them on society's garbage heap to dig for a few scraps instead of having any chance at a sweet ride.  For those extremists who refuse modification and assimilation into the New Order, we'll arrange legal trickery to entrap them and imprison them or send them to the nut houses.... to which end we will recruit and train police bodies dedicated to a general catch-all approach towards any who make any objection at all, and who will deem everyone who is not 'one of them' to be a criminal at first glance and make sure they are even if they are not.

Don't laugh.... been that way here for a very long time.... and it's funny how this style of approach has fitted in so very well with every government policy thrust to 'equalisation' - we have truly endured an attempt at a coup here in this country, and many have suffered without reason to suit it, and the piper is finally waking up ....


If you want me to explain all that to you - I have to go and haven't the time right now to write another book.
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Reply #51 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 8:14am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 4:59am:
Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 3:28am:
The  'solutions' of the progressives are the cause of a lot of the world's problems.

Grin Grin Grin



If it weren't for progressives, we'd still be getting around by horse and buggy - and probably on square wheels

When did progress begin to cause the "world's problems" ?







This is true but the progressives must also acknowledge that progress has been largely at the hands of large multinationals. they like some aspects of progress but rally with outrage in movements like
"Occupy Wall Street". hardly a consistent position.

There is a local rag in Brisbane at the moment on how to "wreck the G20 meeting"  they are luddites and horse and buggy aspirants in many ways
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Reply #52 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:21am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 4:59am:
Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 3:28am:
The  'solutions' of the progressives are the cause of a lot of the world's problems.

Grin Grin Grin



If it weren't for progressives, we'd still be getting around by horse and buggy - and probably on square wheels

When did progress begin to cause the "world's problems" ?







LOL.  Besdies the obvious differnces between ideological "progress" and technological progress, did you forget that the emissions from these newfangled internal combustion devices are changing the climate in a way horse and carts didn't?

Even your own analogy is against you.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #53 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:37pm
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 12:25am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".


Dodge what? Life moves on, things change, and you can't deal with it? Yes, let's hunker down and be conservative rather than move out and find solutions.

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"life moves on" eh. Silly reasoning. Any change could be justified by that slogan.

What solutions are you speaking of?
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Re: The Origins of Political Correctness
Reply #54 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:43pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 4:59am:
Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 3:28am:
The  'solutions' of the progressives are the cause of a lot of the world's problems.

Grin Grin Grin



[size=14][font=Comic Sans MS][i]If it weren't for progressives, we'd still be getting around by horse and buggy - and probably on square wheels


No. You've misunderstood. "Progressivism" in quotation marks only begins in the 1960s, and has nothing to do with the technological innovations of the past few millennia. "Progressivism" is all about creating "victimhood status".



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Reply #55 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:56pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 12:25am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".


Dodge what? Life moves on, things change, and you can't deal with it? Yes, let's hunker down and be conservative rather than move out and find solutions.

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"life moves on" eh. Silly reasoning. Any change could be justified by that slogan.

What solutions are you speaking of?


How do you keep things the same? It won't happen. Embrace the change and see if you can have a part in directing it. Solutions are found by looking forward to what is possible and moving in that direction, not hunkering down in your self righteousness.
Life will move on.
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Reply #56 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:00pm
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:56pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 12:25am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".


Dodge what? Life moves on, things change, and you can't deal with it? Yes, let's hunker down and be conservative rather than move out and find solutions.

edited...



"life moves on" eh. Silly reasoning. Any change could be justified by that slogan.

What solutions are you speaking of?


How do you keep things the same? It won't happen. Embrace the change and see if you can have a part in directing it. Solutions are found by looking forward to what is possible and moving in that direction, not hunkering down in your self righteousness.
Life will move on.


No one has said anything about keeping things the same. Conservatism as stagnation is a misrepresentation. There is pragmatic change in Conservatism. There is just no revolution, radical changes, and/or pandering to the rants of the few.

I was wondering what specific problems you were talking about when you were referring to solutions.
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Reply #57 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:16pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:00pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:56pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 12:25am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:55pm:
Keep dodging. I've expected nothing less from "progressives".


Dodge what? Life moves on, things change, and you can't deal with it? Yes, let's hunker down and be conservative rather than move out and find solutions.

edited...



"life moves on" eh. Silly reasoning. Any change could be justified by that slogan.

What solutions are you speaking of?


How do you keep things the same? It won't happen. Embrace the change and see if you can have a part in directing it. Solutions are found by looking forward to what is possible and moving in that direction, not hunkering down in your self righteousness.
Life will move on.


No one has said anything about keeping things the same. Conservatism as stagnation is a misrepresentation. There is pragmatic change in Conservatism. There is just no revolution, radical changes, and/or pandering to the rants of the few.

I was wondering what specific problems you were talking about when you were referring to solutions.


Why then are you not called progressives? Progressive means looking at what is ahead and meeting it. Conservative ideology seems to be "we'll wait, do little and denounce any progress. We loved the '50s and church, what more do you want?"
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Reply #58 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:28pm
 
Did you even read the op? That's why I am not a "progressive".

The "progressivism" in the op is nothing like what was considered progress from the Enlightenment to the 1960s. I actually am sympathetic to the Enlightenment version of progress, to an extent.

I am not a "progressive" today because it's all about creating "victims". It has nothing to do with innovation, autonomy, self-discipline, technology, or solutions. It's about creating victims, guilt, pessimism, and resentment.
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Reply #59 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 11:31pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:28pm:
Did you even read the op? That's why I am not a "progressive".

The "progressivism" in the op is nothing like what was considered progress from the Enlightenment to the 1960s. I actually am sympathetic to the Enlightenment version of progress, to an extent.

I am not a "progressive" today because it's all about creating "victims". It has nothing to do with innovation, autonomy, self-discipline, technology, or solutions. It's about creating victims, guilt, pessimism, and resentment. 


Really? I see them as fringes. I doubt I notice much of it, I suppose because I see victims everywhere crying out. For instance think of the poor coffee shops on long weekends?! Burdened, never have it goods. Sad init?
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