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Reply #45 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

Of course.

Do you really believe people would continue to swim at West Australia's beaches if there was an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks?

There is an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks at WA beaches.

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Reply #46 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:30am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

Of course.

Do you really believe people would continue to swim at West Australia's beaches if there was an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks?

There is an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks at WA beaches.

Google university will say otherwise

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Reply #47 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:33am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

Of course.

Do you really believe people would continue to swim at West Australia's beaches if there was an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks?

There is an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks at WA beaches.

Google university will say otherwise

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/fatal-shark-attacks-in-wa-sinc...

TODAY'S fatal shark attack on a 35-year-old surfer near Gracetown is the eleventh fatal shark attack in WA waters since 2000. It is the third in the Gracetown area since 2004.

-July 15, 2012: Surfer Ben Linden, 24, fatally mauled by a great white shark near Wedge Island, north of Perth.

-April 1, 2012: Father-of-two Peter Kurmann, 32, taken by a 4m white pointer shark after a morning dive off Geographe Bay with his brother.

-October 23, 2011: American George Thomas Wainwright, 32, died after a great white attacked him while scuba diving off Rottnest Island.

-October 10, 2011: Perth businessman Bryn Martin, 64, disappeared while swimming off Cottesloe Beach. His shredded swimming costume was later found.

-September 4, 2011: 21-year-old surfer Kyle Burden died in Bunker Bay after his body was ripped in half by a shark.

-August 17, 2010: Nick Edwards, 31, bled to death after being attacked while surfing in Gracetown.

-December 27, 2008: Fisherman Brian Guest, 51, was taken by a shark when he was snorkelling at Port Kennedy in Perth's south.

-March 19, 2005: Geoffrey Brazier, 26, attacked by a 6m shark, believed to be a great white, as he snorkelled near the Abrolhos Islands, off Geraldton, 500km north of Perth.

-July 10, 2004: Surfer Brad Smith, 29, is attacked by two sharks believed to be a great white and a bronze whaler while surfing a popular reef off Gracetown.

-November 6, 2000: Businessman and father-of-three Ken Crew, 49, died after his leg was torn off by what Fisheries officers believe was a white pointer shark up to 4m long at North Cottesloe beach.

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Re: Dingo attack women on Fraser Island.
Reply #48 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:16am:

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

Of course.

Do you really believe people would continue to swim at West Australia's beaches if there was an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks?

There is an annual roll-call of people being shredded by toothy sharks at WA beaches.

Google university will say otherwise

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/fatal-shark-attacks-in-wa-sinc...

TODAY'S fatal shark attack on a 35-year-old surfer near Gracetown is the eleventh fatal shark attack in WA waters since 2000. It is the third in the Gracetown area since 2004.

-July 15, 2012: Surfer Ben Linden, 24, fatally mauled by a great white shark near Wedge Island, north of Perth.

-April 1, 2012: Father-of-two Peter Kurmann, 32, taken by a 4m white pointer shark after a morning dive off Geographe Bay with his brother.

-October 23, 2011: American George Thomas Wainwright, 32, died after a great white attacked him while scuba diving off Rottnest Island.

-October 10, 2011: Perth businessman Bryn Martin, 64, disappeared while swimming off Cottesloe Beach. His shredded swimming costume was later found.

-September 4, 2011: 21-year-old surfer Kyle Burden died in Bunker Bay after his body was ripped in half by a shark.

-August 17, 2010: Nick Edwards, 31, bled to death after being attacked while surfing in Gracetown.

-December 27, 2008: Fisherman Brian Guest, 51, was taken by a shark when he was snorkelling at Port Kennedy in Perth's south.

-March 19, 2005: Geoffrey Brazier, 26, attacked by a 6m shark, believed to be a great white, as he snorkelled near the Abrolhos Islands, off Geraldton, 500km north of Perth.

-July 10, 2004: Surfer Brad Smith, 29, is attacked by two sharks believed to be a great white and a bronze whaler while surfing a popular reef off Gracetown.

-November 6, 2000: Businessman and father-of-three Ken Crew, 49, died after his leg was torn off by what Fisheries officers believe was a white pointer shark up to 4m long at North Cottesloe beach.

Sorry greg, I was pointing out that Herbert seems to consider himself qualified on the basis he searches the internet

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Reply #50 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 1:08pm

I remember Fraser Island when the brumbies ran wild on the island and the dingos had plenty to eat. There was never any problems then and dingos were not considered a tourist attraction as they are today.

Some things stick in the mind's eye and I can still see the brumbies galloping along the beach.

I hate to say it but when they decided the brumbies had to go then they should have also removed the dingos. Neither were or are native to the island.

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Re: Dingo attack women on Fraser Island.
Reply #51 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 4:19pm

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

the facts are herb Dingoes are not your every day dog....and Mr bloody Average should know that...

'Every day' feral dogs in packs are probably a lot more dangerous.

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

they are a wild animal...and it is the feeding of them that brings them into contact with humans..

Not always. They'll go for small children as a food source just like some of our dangerous breed of dogs do.

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

I am sure your terrifying experience is memorable but honestly you cannot compare the two

Wrong.

Anyone looking weak, small, injured, alone, helpless, will attract canines as a pack looking for a likely meal.

Even cowardly coyotes will work up the courage to start nipping at you with increasing ferocity if you happen to be trapped in the wilderness by an upturned car or beach-buggy, or whatever. I've seen the doco.

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

the people were jogging legs moving fast the animals thought that looks like fun..

the animal is not at fault

as for coyotes being cowardly that is so wrong...like the vultures we need them they clean up the garbage that is left by the fat cats....without them the world would be one great bag of maggots..

the only cowards I know of are the human ones.

YOU are the coward. If your ancestors didn't fight of bears and wolves etc. they wouldn't have survived and you wouldn't even be alive today. You are an environmental extremist and you wouldn't stand a chance to survive in nature, if you were forced too. Grin

Watching nature documentaries on TV from your dry sofa in an urbanized area while drinking your coffee, right? Grin

Will be fun when the world wide economy crash is hitting us. You environmental extremists, vegans, animal worshipers and faggots will be running for food. You will be eating insects and grass.....and the remaining pet food that's left in the supermarkets Grin

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Re: Dingo attack women on Fraser Island.
Reply #52 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 7:45pm

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 5:39pm:

Kat wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 5:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

Kat wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 7:52am:

Just waiting for some idiot to begin calling for a cull, or removal.

They invariably do, when something like this occurs.

No, you aren't supposed to feed them. Yes, there are signs.

For this very reason.

No one was feeding them. They were jogging.

People do feed them. It's caused at least one fatal attack before, and was probably a factor in this one as well.

Not necessarily the case that THEY had food, but the dingoes don't know that... Sad

So the dingoes got angry because the joggers didn't have any food Kat? Cheesy

If you say so.

I don't recall either saying or implying any such thing.

It was just a spasticated post that I couldn't help but make a joke out of.

Why, clown?

Get a kick out of laughing inappropriately, do you?

There's a psychiatric term for that.

And the only 'spasticated' (is that even a word?) posts that I've noticed have been yours.

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Re: Dingo attack women on Fraser Island.
Reply #53 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

its you that needs getting real ...

... don't make me shred you any more than I already have, Tootsie.

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

you are all for killing the animal when is plain to see dumb stupid humans are too blame..

Now be fair. I said transport the dingoes to the mainland outback where they can find plenty of sheep to survive on instead of having to eat babies, kiddies, and women joggers on Fraser Island.

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

I have always said a shark would have to come out of the tap to eat me....same with a croc...

I can read signs and I do my best to obey them...

I saw a movie the other day where the sharks were picked up by a tornado at sea and then dropped onto people where they were going about their business inland.

Always expect the Unexpected, codsie.

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

DO NOT TOUCH I do find tempting...especially when I am looking at something beautiful that begs to be touched...like an amazing sculpture.

Like Michelangelo's statue of David, don't you mean? Cool

It was worth being arrested for, wasn't it, cods? CONFESS!

That day you reached out and gave Michelangelo's David a boner that cracked the marble.

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Reply #54 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 7:54pm

Killing the Brumbies on Fraser was the right thing to do. There were dingoes on Fraser before Europeans introduced horses and they can get by just fine without them.

cods wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

the facts are herb Dingoes are not your every day dog....and Mr bloody Average should know that...

'Every day' feral dogs in packs are probably a lot more dangerous.

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

they are a wild animal...and it is the feeding of them that brings them into contact with humans..

Not always. They'll go for small children as a food source just like some of our dangerous breed of dogs do.

cods wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

I am sure your terrifying experience is memorable but honestly you cannot compare the two

Wrong.

Anyone looking weak, small, injured, alone, helpless, will attract canines as a pack looking for a likely meal.

Even cowardly coyotes will work up the courage to start nipping at you with increasing ferocity if you happen to be trapped in the wilderness by an upturned car or beach-buggy, or whatever. I've seen the doco.

for goodness sake.. do you really thing Fraser Island would a be a holiday resort if the dingoes were starved and killed the visitors.??.. get real herb..

the people were jogging legs moving fast the animals thought that looks like fun..

the animal is not at fault

as for coyotes being cowardly that is so wrong...like the vultures we need them they clean up the garbage that is left by the fat cats....without them the world would be one great bag of maggots..

the only cowards I know of are the human ones.

Dingoes are wild animals. There will always be some starving to death while they remain wild. We either acknowledge this, or turn the island into a petting zoo full of fat, fly blown dingoes hanging around for a free feed. Believe it or not, some people actually appreciate the wilderness and go there because of that.

It is not their wildness or starvation that makes them attack people. It is nice people feeding them thinking that will somehow help the situation. That is why that idiot lady copped a $40000 fine. Common sense would not do the trick.

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Reply #55 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 8:07pm

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Dingoes are wild animals. There will always be some starving to death while they remain wild. We either acknowledge this, or turn the island into a petting zoo full of fat, fly blown dingoes hanging around for a free feed. Believe it or not, some people actually appreciate the wilderness and go there because of that.

It is not their wildness or starvation that makes them attack people. It is nice people feeding them thinking that will somehow help the situation. That is why that idiot lady copped a $40000 fine. Common sense would not do the trick.

Fraser Island a wilderness? What? There is are bloody resort, private dwellings, even an airstrip there. I've spent years racing a trailer sailer there every May Day weekend when overnight (mid race) about 1500 (+-) drunks play up something chronic at Gary's Anchorage. Get the dingoes off. Simple. No-one goes there to see them, not even you or your fishing mates, freediver. Sheesh.

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Reply #58 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 8:27pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 30^th, 2014 at 8:18pm:

Nahhhh let the Dingos stay, they are about the only gene pool uncontaminated by domestic dogs and the best way to keep them like that is on an island.

So, who cares? And exactly how do you know that the local mutts have not been up to a bit of fence jumping? What value do they add to anything there?

If Fraser Island was really a wilderness as freediver dreams, I'd agree. But it is not. It is urbanised.

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Reply #59 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 9:13pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 30^th, 2014 at 8:07pm:

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Dingoes are wild animals. There will always be some starving to death while they remain wild. We either acknowledge this, or turn the island into a petting zoo full of fat, fly blown dingoes hanging around for a free feed. Believe it or not, some people actually appreciate the wilderness and go there because of that.

It is not their wildness or starvation that makes them attack people. It is nice people feeding them thinking that will somehow help the situation. That is why that idiot lady copped a $40000 fine. Common sense would not do the trick.

Fraser Island a wilderness? What? There is are bloody resort, private dwellings, even an airstrip there. I've spent years racing a trailer sailer there every May Day weekend when overnight (mid race) about 1500 (+-) drunks play up something chronic at Gary's Anchorage. Get the dingoes off. Simple. No-one goes there to see them, not even you or your fishing mates, freediver. Sheesh.

It's a big Island Aussie, and a small resort. There are thousands of things that are there that people do not specifically go to see. You are wrong about the dingoes though. They are a genuine tourist drawcard. There isn't actually much there for tourists to do, seeing as the beach is dangerous for swimming. Take one thing off the list, and it's a big hit.

Dingoes are not the problem. nice people feeding them is. Get rid of the nice people, not the dingoes.

I personally still get a bit of a thrill when I see a wild dingo, which is pretty rare. Even for me it adds to a trip to Fraser. Though of course it freaks me out a bit when they sneak up behind me while I am fishing.

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