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The left fail basic mathematics
Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:57am
 
There have been howls of protest from the left, justified or not, over the pay rise given to ADF personnel being less than the rate of inflation. Then there have been howls from the left proclaiming this to be a pay cut. Does their idiocy know no bounds? Have they all failed basic mathematics and cannot add or subtract. The only conclusion to draw from this is yes, and this would explain the inability of the fatally incompetent Swan in trying to balance the budget.
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Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:59am
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:12am
 

If one's pay does not keep up with the CPI, it is commonly known as an "effective pay cut".

It's an economic term, and has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right' side of politics.

Basic economic terms: "effective pay cut" and "real pay cut". Please learn the difference.



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Reply #3 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:17am
 
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, who has publicly called on the Prime Minister Tony Abbott to intervene on behalf of uniformed personnel, described the situation as "scandalous".    

"There is no good reason the government cannot put a fair deal on the table. It is already budgeted for," he told Fairfax Media.      

"That is scandalous - it is incomprehensible that this government can send our service men and women into harm's way, and at the same time force them to take an effective pay cut."      Sad      
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Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, who has publicly called on the Prime Minister Tony Abbott to intervene on behalf of uniformed personnel, described the situation as "scandalous".    

"There is no good reason the government cannot put a fair deal on the table. It is already budgeted for," he told Fairfax Media.      

"That is scandalous - it is incomprehensible that this government can send our service men and women into harm's way, and at the same time force them to take an effective pay cut."      Sad      


Disgusting Tony would even have the gall to suggest it after commiting our people to another waste of time war, shame Tony shame.
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Reply #5 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:12am:
If one's pay does not keep up with the CPI, it is commonly known as an "effective pay cut".

It's an economic term, and has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right' side of politics.

Basic economic terms: "effective pay cut" and "real pay cut". Please learn the difference.





Yes Pecker, just like Govt debt is an 'effective' tax increase....and Mr Comrade Swan gave all net tax payers an 'effective' tax increase of $300 odd billion over his term as money man..... Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:42am
 
Debt was under $200Bn at the time of the election, net debt was substantially less than that.

Hokey has increased govt spending and REALLY blown out the deficit!

Swan did heroic work cutting out $150Bn of Howard’s irresponsible, reckless spending from the Budget after saving us from the worst effects of the GFC.

The problem Swan and Hokey face is declining revenue with revenue not coming in as forecast by Treasury. With a highly indebted household sector a Budget like Hokey’s was always going to cut private spending.

Meanwhile, a few thousand super rich people will from next financial year receive more from Treasury in superannuation related tax concessions, negative gearing, a too–slack FBT, asset millionaires on (partial) Old Age Pension than the whole pension system costs. It is common knowledge that the idiot Costello cut taxes too much and rescinding the 2006–8 tax cuts on the top two brackets is needed.

So bad is Hokey’s Budget (and the rest of the shambles, note the threat to jobs and investments in the renewable energy sector) that deflation has become a real threat:
http://thekouk.com/blog/inflation-is-slowly-deflating-and-rba-should-be-worried....
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Reply #7 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:42am
 
Obviously Armpit doesnt handle the money in his household.

Tell him to give his wife (who obviously pays all the bills as AP hasnt a clue) only $5/week extra for the next 5 years and convince her it is a payrise.

He will cop a handbag across the head which is what he deserves

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Reply #8 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:42am
 
POME Abbott has made it clear, those who give their lives so he and we can have the lifestyle we have today are just not worth the money!

Liar and team are however, they are saving Australia!

Next the liar and team will want us parents sewing our children's uniforms, while liar and team pig into free meals provide from the money those who protect us by giving of their lives!
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Reply #9 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:50am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:12am:
If one's pay does not keep up with the CPI, it is commonly known as an "effective pay cut".

It's an economic term, and has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right' side of politics.

Basic economic terms: "effective pay cut" and "real pay cut". Please learn the difference.






one of the few times I agree with Greg
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Reply #10 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:53am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:50am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:12am:
If one's pay does not keep up with the CPI, it is commonly known as an "effective pay cut".

It's an economic term, and has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right' side of politics.

Basic economic terms: "effective pay cut" and "real pay cut". Please learn the difference.






one of the few times I agree with Greg

In the same way monkey wanted to effectively reduce the Aged Pension. This is totally evil as there are bigger drains in the Budget—the tax expenditures going only to the super rich. The PS wages are also facing an effective cut.

By removing all this spending power recession and deflation become inevitable. The only sound fiscal policy is to run small deficits for the next ten years.
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Re: The left fail basic mathematics
Reply #11 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:54am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:59am:
Poll added. More than one option can be chosen.


Unfortunately the poll is not more biased than you.


The system won't let you vote with them all blank - the system does not understand that AP is capable of getting all the options wrong.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:57am:
There have been howls of protest from the left, justified or not, over the pay rise given to ADF personnel being less than the rate of inflation. Then there have been howls from the left proclaiming this to be a pay cut. Does their idiocy know no bounds? Have they all failed basic mathematics and cannot add or subtract. The only conclusion to draw from this is yes, and this would explain the inability of the fatally incompetent Swan in trying to balance the budget.




"Defence Force personnel have won a pay increase from the Abbott government. But the three-year wage deal is still below inflation and cuts some entitlements.

As members of the Australian Defence Force are sent off to fight a new war, they’re being
asked to accept an effective pay cut
over the next three years and a loss of existing entitlements."

http://www.themandarin.com.au/5908-exclusive-defence-workplace-remuneration-arra...

Firstly we won't be ASKED to accept it - that decision will be made by CDF - and he will accept it

Also in this - which you have failed to take into account - is that many of us will
LOSE 6 days leave
.  Extra Recreational Leave of 5 days to make up for out of hours work - that's now put in the "oh well" basket - and a mandated day off over the Xmas new year period.
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Reply #13 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 8:05am
 
Swagman wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:12am:
If one's pay does not keep up with the CPI, it is commonly known as an "effective pay cut".

It's an economic term, and has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right' side of politics.

Basic economic terms: "effective pay cut" and "real pay cut". Please learn the difference.





Yes Pecker, just like Govt debt is an 'effective' tax increase....and Mr Comrade Swan gave all net tax payers an 'effective' tax increase of $300 odd billion over his term as money man..... Cheesy

No government debt is government debt. It can become an effective tax increase if taxation is chosen as the method to pay the debt. Abbott came to power with the promise that he could pay down debt out of cuts and savings on waste. He has been remarkably unsuccessful and in fact has achieved the opposite by dramatically increasing debt mostly by substantially adding to the waste.
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Reply #14 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 8:10am
 
Vic wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 7:58am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:57am:
There have been howls of protest from the left, justified or not, over the pay rise given to ADF personnel being less than the rate of inflation. Then there have been howls from the left proclaiming this to be a pay cut. Does their idiocy know no bounds? Have they all failed basic mathematics and cannot add or subtract. The only conclusion to draw from this is yes, and this would explain the inability of the fatally incompetent Swan in trying to balance the budget.




"Defence Force personnel have won a pay increase from the Abbott government. But the three-year wage deal is still below inflation and cuts some entitlements.

As members of the Australian Defence Force are sent off to fight a new war, they’re being
asked to accept an effective pay cut
over the next three years and a loss of existing entitlements."

http://www.themandarin.com.au/5908-exclusive-defence-workplace-remuneration-arra...

Firstly we won't be ASKED to accept it - that decision will be made by CDF - and he will accept it

Also in this - which you have failed to take into account - is that many of us will
LOSE 6 days leave
.  Extra Recreational Leave of 5 days to make up for out of hours work - that's now put in the "oh well" basket - and a mandated day off over the Xmas new year period.


The loss of conditions is more despicable than the effective pay cut.

Just the conservatives exercising their Dogma against an opponent with their hands tied behind their back.

Just in case anyone doubted what grubs they are they once again give us an outstanding example of their sub human standards.
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