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George Orwell warned us about this.
Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:49am
 
Big Brother is Watching.

But instead of this being part of a government instrumentality, it is the work of small, Social-Marxist cells operating independently to stifle and gag any sort of free speech that might give their audience a different view to that of the Far Left True Believers.

Here we have a private citizen being pilloried for expressing an attitude that isn't strictly in keeping with the Group-Think of the socialist idealists.

He is to be publicly embarrassed and verbally flogged until he recants and prostrates himself before the Altar of Political Correctness to ask for their forgiveness ... and assisting with this Political Re-Education is none other than the university top staff themselves.

"The Sydney University professor suspended over racist emails has taken legal action against the website that published them.

The Federal Court has ordered online news site New Matilda not to publish further details about Barry Spurr's leaked emails, which referred to Prime Minister Tony Abbott as an "Abo-lover" and made references to "Mussies" and "Chinky-poos".

Professor Spurr, who was also a consultant to the Federal Government's national English curriculum review, was widely criticised over the emails after New Matilda published extracts last week.

Lawyers for Professor Spurr argued the publication of the emails breached the Privacy Act, and the court granted an injunction preventing publication of any more details before another court hearing on Thursday.

New Matilda editor Chris Graham said Professor Spurr's legal team was also fighting to have the emails returned, the articles deleted and the source of the leak revealed.

"Hell will freeze over before the last bit happens," Graham said".


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Reply #1 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:00am
 
this business of emails and privacy ..will be the cause of more trouble if one sent a letter to someone to whom does the letter belong...

and email is the same thing.. it is sent somewhere...therefore it doesnt belong to you anymore does it??????????????????????????..

unless you start everyone with ..

without prejudice...it can be used against you cant it????
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Reply #2 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am
 
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.
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Reply #3 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:45am
 
I agree about sacking him.. to think he is a Professor and is in a position of teaching makes me shudder.. I dont care what his politics is... to think a so called academic could be this bizarre is beyond me.. off the public purse I say.
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Reply #4 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:50am
 
omg abo lover

chinky poo

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what a CRIMINAL

you guys are wound up by stuff like that?
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Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:53am
 
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


so what if hes a good teacher? what does it matter what his views are if he is a good teacher? how do you know?
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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:16am
 
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


Softie.  I'd have him hung, drawn and quartered.
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Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:22am
 
With all our Meta Data being stored and ASIO tapping peoples phones, emails etc,dont be suprised if more private data doesnt find its way into the news.

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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:26am
 
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


Whatever happened to 'tolerance' for different points of view, and 'free speech' in a democracy, and 'liberalism', and 'progressivism', and all those warm-and-cuddly socialist values?

If it's a white Anglo Westerner making a politically incorrect comment in private ~ it's not on, and he gets suspended.

But if it's a Muslim calling for 'beheadings' and rioting in the streets of Sydney ... the university they attend as a student will not suspend him.

Ditto Abos burning the Australian flag in public and stamping on its ashes.

The Prof's real sin is being a white Anglo-Saxon.

He has become the victim of the reverse side of Proactive Discrimination.   



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Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:31am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:26am:
He has become the victim of the reverse side of Proactive Discrimination.   



I agree Herb

I dont suppose the person who released the emails has been suspended. This would most likely be against the law I would have thought!

I dont think the proff is a nice person by any means but its hardly a hanging offence in my opinion.
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Reply #10 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:32am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:26am:
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


Whatever happened to 'tolerance' for different points of view, and 'free speech' in a democracy, and 'liberalism', and 'progressivism', and all those warm-and-cuddly socialist values?

If it's a white Anglo Westerner making a politically incorrect comment in private ~ it's not on, and he gets suspended.

But if it's a Muslim calling for 'beheadings' and rioting in the streets of Sydney ... the university they attend as a student will not suspend him.

Ditto Abos burning the Australian flag in public and stamping on its ashes.

The Prof's real sin is being a white Anglo-Saxon.

He has become the victim of the reverse side of Proactive Discrimination.   






Ummm, he would have oodles of training about this. No sympathy from me, as a uni lecturer, we're supposed to only really use uni email for uni business.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #11 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:32am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:26am:
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


Whatever happened to 'tolerance' for different points of view, and 'free speech' in a democracy, and 'liberalism', and 'progressivism', and all those warm-and-cuddly socialist values?

If it's a white Anglo Westerner making a politically incorrect comment in private ~ it's not on, and he gets suspended.

But if it's a Muslim calling for 'beheadings' and rioting in the streets of Sydney ... the university they attend as a student will not suspend him.

Ditto Abos burning the Australian flag in public and stamping on its ashes.

The Prof's real sin is being a white Anglo-Saxon.

He has become the victim of the reverse side of Proactive Discrimination.   






Ummm, he would have oodles of training about this. No sympathy from me, as a uni lecturer, we're supposed to only really use uni email for uni business.


Standard company email policy - however you know they only enforce it when they want to get you for something.

I wonder what he did to make them come after him...
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Reply #12 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 9:39am
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/letters/barry-spurr-case-shows-new-purit...
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Barry Spurr case shows new puritanism is alive and well

HAS Australia gone slightly mad? I read in the London press of some poor professor in Sydney who has been persecuted and suspended for sending emails to a friend in which he employs outrageous vernacular epithets for race which would be offensive if they were not so clearly jocular.
His reported response to the storm in a teacup which followed this revelation is, unsurprisingly, bewilderment. How could anyone take such deliberate touretting seriously? The answer, I fear, is that there are a lot of Australians these days who are totally bereft of a sense of humour. The new puritanism is alive, well and powerful.

Not long ago some poor guy was actually prosecuted for saying that the Aboriginal welfare services were sometimes exploited by faux Aborigines, even though we knew it was true.

Recently, I announced that when I curate next year’s Adelaide cabaret festival I will ban the F-word, and there was a howl of protest, indeed outrage, particularly from comedians. What kind of comedians were they, do you suppose? Why, comedians with no sense of humour of course! Or comedians whose stand-ups would be meaningless if deprived of one over-used word.

We really ought to be aware of this malignant brand of cultural fascism, and restore our reputation as a funny country before it’s too late.

Barry Humphries, London, UK


"Cultural fascism"  AKA extreme Political Correctism has a new description.

  Dame Edna has spoken.  Smiley  Wink

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Reply #13 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 12:55pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 8:26am:
Kat wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:34am:
I have no sympathy for him.

The e-mails were not private (policy) and he knew it.

His comments are indefensible.

Trying to blame socialism or Marxism (not the same thing at all) is silly, and plain wrong.

I'd have sacked him, not suspended him.


Whatever happened to 'tolerance' for different points of view, and 'free speech' in a democracy, and 'liberalism', and 'progressivism', and all those warm-and-cuddly socialist values?

If it's a white Anglo Westerner making a politically incorrect comment in private ~ it's not on, and he gets suspended.

But if it's a Muslim calling for 'beheadings' and rioting in the streets of Sydney ... the university they attend as a student will not suspend him.

Ditto Abos burning the Australian flag in public and stamping on its ashes.

The Prof's real sin is being a white Anglo-Saxon.

He has become the victim of the reverse side of Proactive Discrimination.   






Classical socio-fascist thinking, Herb, the 'rules' are made so loose and so biased and so open to subjectivity that nobody accused in any way has any rights any more.

I warned explicitly against this in my opposing view to the introduction of 'uniform domestic violence' laws that created offences out of nothing more than accusation and lack of proof, and which were and are then used to exercise 'legalised' violence against the accused.

In keeping with the old level of jurisprudence here that I constantly warn about as well... the presumption of guilt by the 'judge' etc, and the way such persons, almost universally, will bend over backwards to find 'guilt', as opposed to following the legal requirement of all and any doubt being on the side of the accused, even in the most absurd situation.

Then they wonder why Muslims and others in the streets consider it fair game to behave outside the law - when the law itself is a crime, then what law is there in reality?  Only the law of force...... and violence.....

So - when you remove any rights, you walk a dangerous path, and one that will one day blow up in your face.
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Reply #14 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 3:40pm
 
... wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 9:35am:
Standard company email policy - however you know they only enforce it when they want to get you for something.



Well not entirely you see that can only enforce it if you have actually breached a policy which you agreed to adhere to....

Ergo, if you do not breach the policy, then it doesn't matter how "out to get you" they are...

He clearly breached policy, therefore, clearly it is appropriate he faces the consequences of that breach. This is pretty straight forward stuff.

Oh, and he still has his "Freedom" of speech quite clearly in place, I guess with all of his academic achievements he may need to do a course in home email use.

Nothing important to see here!
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