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Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:55am

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two years ban on owning another dog and $600 fine..

why do we bother charging these people...

a $600 fine is hardly a punishment for ill treatment..

will a fine like that prevent others being cruel...

I dont think so.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131551 Gender:	Re: animal cruelty Reply #2 - Oct 17^th, 2014 at 10:48am "He said the RSPCA investigated more than 14,000 cases of animal cruelty each year in NSW alone." That's a disturbing figure. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/a-low-mongrel-dog-of-an-act-john-delan... (It's 8:50am - bit early for lunch)
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Reply #3 - Oct 17^th, 2014 at 11:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

"He said the RSPCA investigated more than 14,000 cases of animal cruelty each year in NSW alone."

That's a disturbing figure.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/a-low-mongrel-dog-of-an-act-john-delan...

(It's 8:50am - bit early for lunch)

exactly.... thats why I say $600 fine will stop no one...some folks should not ever have animals or children...two years is not a long time...and whos watching to see that this guy doesnt go out and get another animal.

its a joke...a really sick one..

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Reply #4 - Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

People like that are gutless cowards, they take out their retardation on helpless animals. Yes, they are abundant. People like that make want to support population control.

It seems like everything is solved with money these days, isn't it? Like drink-drivers and people who speed, most of the time they cop a fine, though it varies. Does it make any difference? Not really.

Then there's people who don't pay their fines or debts... you'd be surprised how many people get away with not paying it. Unnoticed, almost like they're invisible.

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Reply #5 - Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:34am

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:55am:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/a-low-mongrel-dog-of-an-act-john-delan...

two years ban on owning another dog and $600 fine..

why do we bother charging these people...

a $600 fine is hardly a punishment for ill treatment..

will a fine like that prevent others being cruel...

I dont think so.

This bloke was caught thankfully and at least got some punishment regardless of how small it was. Think of the thousands, probably millions of abused animals in this country where owners inflict cruelty on their pets in the privacy of their own backyard and there is no-one around to witness it.

Same goes for abused children.

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Reply #6 - Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:02am

mantra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 5:34am:

cods wrote on Oct 17^th, 2014 at 4:55am:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/a-low-mongrel-dog-of-an-act-john-delan...

two years ban on owning another dog and $600 fine..

why do we bother charging these people...

a $600 fine is hardly a punishment for ill treatment..

will a fine like that prevent others being cruel...

I dont think so.

This bloke was caught thankfully and at least got some punishment regardless of how small it was. Think of the thousands, probably millions of abused animals in this country where owners inflict cruelty on their pets in the privacy of their own backyard and there is no-one around to witness it.

Same goes for abused children.

totally agree....he was caught by a camera Mantra...

as a nation we should be ashamed of our record in both regards.. the more we have the less we become Angry

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Reply #7 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:00am

How is it possible that the magistrate can allow this cruel offender to start collecting animals all over again after a ban of only five years?

This sort of leftwing liberal-progressive ideology has no place in a court of law.

A local Penrose woman appeared in Wollongong Local Court last Wednesday to face two charges of aggravated animal cruelty. 57 dogs and two birds had been seized from the woman property. The woman was convicted, placed on an 18-month good behaviour bond and banned from owning animals for a period of five years.

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Reply #8 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:33am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:00am:

How is it possible that the magistrate can allow this cruel offender to start collecting animals all over again after a ban of only five years?

This sort of leftwing liberal-progressive ideology has no place in a court of law.

A local Penrose woman appeared in Wollongong Local Court last Wednesday to face two charges of aggravated animal cruelty. 57 dogs and two birds had been seized from the woman property. The woman was convicted, placed on an 18-month good behaviour bond and banned from owning animals for a period of five years.

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She might have been an elderly woman - we don't know. Even though these hoarders subject their animals to the most horrific cruelty through sheer neglect - their intentions are usually well meaning. They just haven't got the ability to look after so many animals and can't see that.

Hopefully most of the animals can be saved.

Better some LW ideology to inflict a little punishment rather than RW ideology where animals are considered inanimate objects ie live cattle trade, factory farming etc. Profits take consideration over treating animals humanely.

Still 5 years is too short a punishment. It should be a life ban. These people won't change and will fall back into their old habits given a chance.

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Reply #9 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:43am

mantra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:33am:

Still 5 years is too short a punishment. It should be a life ban. These people won't change and will fall back into their old habits given a chance.

I wasn't thinking in terms of punishment, but simply putting animals permanently out of reach of people like her.

I take your point that in this case she is most likely mentally ill and her perspectives are delusional.

All the more reason she should be barred from any future ownership. I read of these cases again and again where these sort of people are given just a couple of years or so without animal ownership before then being free to resume their former behaviour.

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