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Oct 15^th, 2014 at 10:03pm

Tonight was the last night of my 'Small Engines & Outdoor Power Equipment' Tech course.

Sat two theory exams, passed both (Pumps theory - 27/32, and Servicing Procedures - 38/40).

All six of those who completed the course have passed, and I'm pretty sure I may have come
1st, as my marks have all been in the same range as the above, and the instructors have been
very happy with my prac work and general knowledge of the subject.

Some here no doubt thought I'd fail, and I know one or two probably hoped I would, and any
support from other members has, sadly, been limited to only a few, but all went well anyway.

Al that's left now is TAFE's Graduation Day on Dec 11th.

I would thoroughly recommend these evening/night courses, unreservedly, and in fact I am
thinking of possibly doing another next autumn/winter, depending on which courses they run.

I can, if I wish, do the next level up from the one I've just completed, which will get me into
motorcycle and outboard motor repairs. Since I thoroughly enjoyed this course, would have
the same instructors, and may even have a couple from this course as class-mates, why not?

Bottom-line: You don't need to be unemployed to do these courses, night courses especially
suit those who work during the day but want to up-skill or re-skill. In this case the workshops
are modern and fully-equipped, the instructors know their business, and my fellow-students
were mostly decent people who were genuine about doing well. Sadly some dropped out, for
whatever reason, but you'll always get those.

You could do worse than to at least check your local TAFE out and see what courses may be
available in your area. Again, you do NOT have to be on the dole, anyone can enrol.

Anyway, that's it done. The knockers and mockers (and there have been a few) will have to
find another avenue of attack.

EDIT: This 149 Holden red motor in the workshop at TAFE has been sectioned to show
the apprentice grease-monkeys what happens inside an engine. ↓↓

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 10:08pm 'Onya Kat.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39511 Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 10:22pm Very well done Kat
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 11:31pm well done .... now when are you gonna fix my mower?
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #4 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 12:16am John Smith wrote on Oct 15^th, 2014 at 11:31pm: well done .... now when are you gonna fix my mower? Specialist mower-surgery via the NBN? Don't tell Turnbull or Conroy...
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #5 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 6:34am Congratulations Kat.......knowledge is power!
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20700 ACT Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #6 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 8:09am Yes well done Kat
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #7 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 8:23am well done KAt I wish i could get my son in law interested in something like that he is recently retired..and not doing all that well. but he doesnt have the patience or interest.. golf is his main priority so good luck with progressing on to the next stage..
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #8 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 9:20am Kat wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 12:16am: John Smith wrote on Oct 15^th, 2014 at 11:31pm: well done .... now when are you gonna fix my mower? Specialist mower-surgery via the NBN? Don't tell Turnbull or Conroy... you'd make millions if you could do that
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #9 - Oct 16^th, 2014 at 9:43am Bravo, Kat. Taking the next course sounds like an excellent idea, especially since you seem to have enjoyed this one so much and did so well at it.
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Reply #12 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 5:50pm

UPDATE:

Got bored this afternoon, so decided to assemble the 2-stroke project engine into a usable whippa-snippa again.

As obtained, it had no shaft or cutter head, it was a bare motor only. But I had acquired an identical one with a
seized motor, so I put the good shaft/cutter onto the good project motor. And, bugger me, it went!

Due to the difficulty of holding it down, it wasn't actually started at the course, but the instructor did check it and
gave me a 'pass', so I was fairly optimistic that it would go. I didn't think it would start this easily though.

The only 'teething trouble' was a leaky fuel-line, which was easily fixed.

It is now for sale, I don't need it myself as I have one already. Should bring me a bit of much-needed Xmas pocket-
money, with a bit of luck.

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Reply #14 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 5:58pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 5:53pm:

How much?

Haven't put a firm figure on it yet, but not a whole lot.

Can't ask a fortune or they'll buy some cheap Chinese rubbish from Bunnings instead... Sad

I have 5 more awaiting the same treatment (a Ryobi the same as this, a more expensive
Ryobi with a clutch, a 'Weed Eater', a 'Flymo' and an old Tanaka-engine 'Parklander'.

My 'personal' whippa-snippa is a Homelite, which has so far proven to be a 'good 'un'.

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Reply #18 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Good on you Kat, that's awesome

Thanks, Aqua.

Been chatting with a few people, and they reckon I should start a part-time 'business' with it.

I've been thinking about it, and have started a new thread to explain my idea and to get a bit
of feedback from other members.

You're welcome to toss your opinions/ideas into the hat as well... Tongue

New thread is HERE: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414577715/0#0

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Reply #19 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:26pm

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Good on you Kat, that's awesome

Thanks, Aqua.

Been chatting with a few people, and they reckon I should start a part-time 'business' with it.

I've been thinking about it, and have started a new thread to explain my idea and to get a bit
of feedback from other members.

You're welcome to toss your opinions/ideas into the hat as well... Tongue

New thread is HERE: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414577715/0#0

If you are on any Govt payments think about starting it as a hobby first, see Centrelink, as I'm pretty sure money from hobbies is not assessable.

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Reply #20 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:46pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Good on you Kat, that's awesome

Thanks, Aqua.

Been chatting with a few people, and they reckon I should start a part-time 'business' with it.

I've been thinking about it, and have started a new thread to explain my idea and to get a bit
of feedback from other members.

You're welcome to toss your opinions/ideas into the hat as well... Tongue

New thread is HERE: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414577715/0#0

If you are on any Govt payments think about starting it as a hobby first, see Centrelink, as I'm pretty sure money from hobbies is not assessable.

Yeah, I'll have to check up on that, but I think you're correct.

And a hobby/sideline is all it will be, at first anyway, until I see how (or if) it goes.

I don't want to go through all the rigmarole (and expense) of getting a business name and ABN
if it's not going to 'take off' either.

Horse before cart, so to speak... Wink

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Reply #21 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:18pm

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Good on you Kat, that's awesome

Thanks, Aqua.

Been chatting with a few people, and they reckon I should start a part-time 'business' with it.

I've been thinking about it, and have started a new thread to explain my idea and to get a bit
of feedback from other members.

You're welcome to toss your opinions/ideas into the hat as well... Tongue

New thread is HERE: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414577715/0#0

If you are on any Govt payments think about starting it as a hobby first, see Centrelink, as I'm pretty sure money from hobbies is not assessable.

Yeah, I'll have to check up on that, but I think you're correct.

And a hobby/sideline is all it will be, at first anyway, until I see how (or if) it goes.

I don't want to go through all the rigmarole (and expense) of getting a business name and ABN
if it's not going to 'take off' either.

Horse before cart, so to speak... Wink

Remember if you are buying them, they are your property, if you then fix them and then sell them, it's selling your property not "working for money" or running a business up to a limit. Just as you can do with cars.

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Reply #22 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:51pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

Kat, just sayin' that ain't a Holden 149 red motor sectioned in the OP. I hope the tech mechs didn't tell you it was. Have fun with motors!

It is a 149. I just checked.

The capacity cast into the block is in cubic centimetres rather than cubic inches.

But you are correct in that it's not a Holden (and yes, I was told it was, so never
paid much detailed attention to it).

Could be Vauxhall or Opel... Now you have my curiosity aroused.

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Reply #23 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:58pm

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

Kat, just sayin' that ain't a Holden 149 red motor sectioned in the OP. I hope the tech mechs didn't tell you it was. Have fun with motors!

It is. I just checked.

The capacity cast into the block is in cubic centimetres rather than cubic inches.

Means it's a later build than the 'original' 149 engines (probably mid-seventies
or newer), but the capacity is the same.

It's not a Holden motor, grey or red. Look at the ports on the head, reds had square siamesed ports until the black fuel injected, the fuel pump is on the wrong side, grey motor had one side plate to access lifters, red had two, that has three and on the wrong side. No holden motors had the fuel pump on the same side as the manifolds. Holden motors before we went metric had the CI cast onto the block except the 179 steel crank HP block which had HP on the block. If it was a 149 it would have 149 cast on to block. It's not a 149 Holden but I'd like to know what it is.

In the early seventies they did not have 149's, they did build a 138(same ci as the second grey motor) only in Toranas as far as I know. The 149 died with the EH as far as I remember, maybe the HD. The HR had 186 and 161. That ran until HQ with 202s which were basically stroked 186's and 173's, stroked 161's.

edit: Just googled the 173 as I wasn't sure of my info on it, it wasn't a stroked 161 it still had the 3" stroke.

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Reply #24 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:12am

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

Kat, just sayin' that ain't a Holden 149 red motor sectioned in the OP. I hope the tech mechs didn't tell you it was. Have fun with motors!

It is. I just checked.

The capacity cast into the block is in cubic centimetres rather than cubic inches.

Means it's a later build than the 'original' 149 engines (probably mid-seventies
or newer), but the capacity is the same.

It's not a Holden motor, grey or red. Look at the ports on the head, reds had square siamesed ports until the black fuel injected, the fuel pump is on the wrong side, grey motor had one side plate to access lifters, red had two, that has three. No holden motors had the fuel pump on the same side as the manifolds. Holden motors before we went metric had the CI cast onto the block except the 179 steel crank HP block which had HP on the block. If it was a 149 it would have 149 cast on to block. It's not a 149 Holden but I'd like to know what it is.

In the early seventies they did not have 149's, they did build a 138(same ci as the second grey motor) only in Toranas as far as I know. The 149 died with the EH.

I was busily editing my post to encompass new info.

As you'll see if you go back and re-read it. It's a shame that posts aren't 'suspended' when being
edited, so people can't comment on a post that, in all likelihood, will be completely different (as
this one was).

I don't need a lecture on the history of early Holden engines, I'm well aware of it, and was initially
doubtful of the idea that it was Holden, it was certainly not an early one but I don't know the later
ones well. I commented based on what I was told. not my fault it was wrong info.

And yes, I'd be curious to know what it actually is. No point going back and asking them, if they
didn't know in the first place.

I'm leaning towards something GM-based, tho.

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Reply #25 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:16am

Kat wrote on Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:12am:

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

Kat wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

Kat, just sayin' that ain't a Holden 149 red motor sectioned in the OP. I hope the tech mechs didn't tell you it was. Have fun with motors!

It is. I just checked.

The capacity cast into the block is in cubic centimetres rather than cubic inches.

Means it's a later build than the 'original' 149 engines (probably mid-seventies
or newer), but the capacity is the same.

It's not a Holden motor, grey or red. Look at the ports on the head, reds had square siamesed ports until the black fuel injected, the fuel pump is on the wrong side, grey motor had one side plate to access lifters, red had two, that has three. No holden motors had the fuel pump on the same side as the manifolds. Holden motors before we went metric had the CI cast onto the block except the 179 steel crank HP block which had HP on the block. If it was a 149 it would have 149 cast on to block. It's not a 149 Holden but I'd like to know what it is.

In the early seventies they did not have 149's, they did build a 138(same ci as the second grey motor) only in Toranas as far as I know. The 149 died with the EH.

I was busily editing my post to encompass new info.

As you'll see if you go back and re-read it. It's a shame that posts aren't 'suspended' when being
edited, so people can't comment on a post that, in all likelihood, will be completely different (as
this one was).

I don't need a lecture on the history of early Holden engines, I'm well aware of it, and was initially
doubtful of the idea that it was Holden, it was certainly not an early one but I don't know the later
ones well. I commented based on what I was told. not my fault it was wrong info.

And yes, I'd be curious to know what it actually is. No point going back and asking them, if they
didn't know in the first place.

I'm leaning towards something GM-based, tho.

No probs, we all have the same problem.

Sorry for my history lecture, I used to be a motor mech, I suppose I could still be but I haven't worked as that for 23 years.

It has a map of AU on the block, that is interesting. I'd love to know what it is. If you get some pics from different angles, I'm sure I'll know. The gearbox is ancient.

edit: Cam is on the wrong side for a red too.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: AND FINALLY, IT'S ALL OVER... FOR NOW. Reply #26 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:28am I think I do have a couple of other pics, I'll see if I can find them, they may hold a clue. Unfortunately they're pretty crappy due to the lighting in the workshop, this was one of the few decent ones. Still, Photoshop can do wonders sometimes.
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Reply #27 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:39am

Actually, Setanta, I think I've nailed it!

It appears to be an Austin Freeway engine from the early 1960s.

It was the word, 'MOWOG' cast into the block with the map of Aus that was the clue.

Apparently they were based on the 4-cylinder 'B-series' engines famously fitted to the MGB.

Quite possibly I'd have picked that if it hadn't been sectioned, as my brother owned an MGB
when we were young blokes and as he had no licence (too young) I used to drive it quite a
lot and so was quite familiar with it.

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Reply #28 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:59am

Kat wrote on Oct 30^th, 2014 at 12:39am:

Actually, Setanta, I think I've nailed it!

It appears to be an Austin Freeway engine from the early 1960s.

It was the word, 'MOWOG' cast into the block with the map of Aus that was the clue.

Apparently they were based on the 4-cylinder 'B-series' engines famously fitted to the MGB.

Quite possibly I'd have picked that if it hadn't been sectioned, as my brother owned an MGB
when we were young blokes and as he had no licence (too young) I used to drive it quite a
lot and so was quite familiar with it.

Thumbs up Kat! I kept counting the ports trying to get 6 cyls but the sectioned ends of the head made it difficult. Now you know something your tech teachers don't. Wink

edit: Duh for me, I should have counted the push rods rather than the ports, easier.

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