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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #15 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

death to Islamic fundamentalists a good followup
death to Victorian footy umpires would fit as well

Why not turn it into a reality show - Umpies vs Numpties. Tell the Umpies that they can keep the nuts of any numpties they slay, and the numpties that they'll get all the virgins they want in the afterlife.

While we're at it, we should also reform out electoral system too. Instead of running a preferential voting system, which is open to abuse, a fairer way would be to play blood-footy where both parties field an AFL team. What is blood footy, you ask? Similar to normal footy, except with the stadium loaded with Collingwood fans and no crowd barriers. Last pollie standing is PM.

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty Reply #16 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:04pm I'm opposed because the justice system for a number of reasons mostly because there has to be a better way to deal with the problems society faces, but also because the justice system isn't trustworthy enough to get it right and you can't undo it.
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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #18 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:20pm

____ wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:02pm:

I'm opposed to the death penalty on many grounds including the murder of innocent people who are found guilty via an imperfect justice system.

As far as I understand, the Greens are still opposed to the death penalty.

But the Greens support abortion which is just the slaughter of innocents?

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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #19 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:48pm

Swagman wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

____ wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:02pm:

I'm opposed to the death penalty on many grounds including the murder of innocent people who are found guilty via an imperfect justice system.

As far as I understand, the Greens are still opposed to the death penalty.

But the Greens support abortion which is just the slaughter of innocents?

So do the old parties.
Don't hear you complaining.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty Reply #20 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm: I voted yes for: Murderers, Rapists, thieves pedophiles & terrorists Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131485 Gender:	Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty Reply #21 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:00pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm: I voted yes for: Murderers, Rapists, thieves pedophiles & terrorists Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby. Why do you support thieves?
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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #22 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

Why do you support thieves?

I actually detest thieves and theft, generally. Just don't detest them as much as the others. And in some cases, it's even understandable, or, if not forgivable, can be ignored.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #23 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

Why do you support thieves?

I actually detest thieves and theft, generally. Just don't detest them as much as the others. And in some cases, it's even understandable, or, if not forgivable, can be ignored.

Why do you think crime is understandable and forgivable?

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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #24 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

What about those crooks you see on TV all the time
who rob old people of their life savings & then you see
them on a speed boat flying around Sydney harbor?

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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #25 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

What about those crooks you see on TV all the time
who rob old people of their life savings & then you see
them on a speed boat flying around Sydney harbor?

Locking them up for 'the term of their natural', is a far better punishment for that sort of personality. After selling everything they own and returning the money to the victims, of course.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #26 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:17pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

What about those crooks you see on TV all the time
who rob old people of their life savings & then you see
them on a speed boat flying around Sydney harbor?

Locking them up for 'the term of their natural', is a far better punishment for that sort of personality. After selling everything they own and returning the money to the victims, of course.

But they always use loopholes to get off scott free.

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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #27 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

Why do you support thieves?

I actually detest thieves and theft, generally. Just don't detest them as much as the others. And in some cases, it's even understandable, or, if not forgivable, can be ignored.

Why do you think crime is understandable and forgivable?

A lot of theft is through desperation, stupidity or peer pressure, none of which is, imo, serious enough for capital punishment. Don't see any reason to execute a little kid for nicking a chuppa-chup, because he friend's dared him to, or a person who faced the choice between stealing and starving (or watching his kids starve).

And I know you are heading towards some 'moral high ground' statement about killing anyone being wrong, but that doesn't bother me, or really work that well.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Should Oz Reintroduce The Death Penalty
Reply #28 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:17pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I voted yes for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Remove thieves, and I agree with the rest of the list Bobby.

What about those crooks you see on TV all the time
who rob old people of their life savings & then you see
them on a speed boat flying around Sydney harbor?

Locking them up for 'the term of their natural', is a far better punishment for that sort of personality. After selling everything they own and returning the money to the victims, of course.

But they always use loopholes to get off scott free.

Then they'd use the same loopholes to avoid the death penalty too, wouldn't they?
The trick is to bring in laws that close the loopholes.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Question: Reintroduction of the Death Penalty
Yes 12 (46.2%) Maybe 0 (0.0%) Unsure 0 (0.0%) No 14 (53.8%) Total votes: 26 « Created by: ____ on: Sep 18^th, 2014 at 2:56pm »