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Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:55am
 

UNION officials spent three days deleting emails despite a notice from the royal commission ordering it to hand over all documents on its dealings with businessman George Alex. 
 
The Royal Commission into Union Corruption ordered the Construction Forestry Mining and Engineering Union to hand over any documents relating to Mr Alex’s security and scaffolding companies.

But Kylie Wray, NSW branch general manager, said the union suddenly found in June, less than a month after receiving the notice, that it was not receiving any email because of a “disk space error”.

The hearing heard senior union officials faced up to two years’ jail over the intimidation of industry inspectors.

Counsel assisting the commission Jeremy Stoljar warned yesterday of stiff penalties if gross obstruction were proven.

Ms Wray had said the email system was full and had not been backed up. She told staff to delete emails.

“We are just days away from the royal commission kicking off and there is a LOT going on, we need everyone to make this a priority please,” she told staff — in an email.

Mr Stoljar asked: “Didn’t you consider getting an external storage device and loading some emails on to that?”


Ms Wray said it had not occurred to her — despite an email from her boss suggesting it three minutes later — and confirmed a team of nine spent at least three days purging the union’s email system.

Mr Stoljar suggested it was a deliberate attempt to destroy evidence.

“You wished to delete emails which would otherwise be produced to the commission in answer to notices to produce: Is that right?” he said.

“Absolutely not,” Ms Wray replied.

The commission was seeking documents relating to Enterprise Bargaining Agreements between Mr Alex’s companies and the union.

In the commission the previous day Mr Stoljar described Mr Alex as “a person with well-publicised connections with organised crime”.

The commission heard that directors of Mr Alex’s companies withdrew $2500 cash in “union fees” every week.

And it also heard from several witnesses that CFMEU officials including NSW secretary Brian Parker, bikies and debt collectors had been seen at Mr George’s house.

Yesterday Ms Wray said she personally went through and deleted all of Mr Parker’s emails — but she claimed that there were no emails from Mr Alex in his inbox.

The inquiry continues.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/cfmeu-purged-its-emails-union-corrupti...
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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:09am
 
The funny thing is this could just as easily be technical incompetence as it could be purposeful obstruction.
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:38am
 
Kytro wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:09am:
The funny thing is this could just as easily be technical incompetence as it could be purposeful obstruction.




a coincidence you mean.. Grin Grin Grin

the cfmeu reminds me of the good old days of the painters and dockers,, Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:40am
 
Kytro wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:09am:
The funny thing is this could just as easily be technical incompetence as it could be purposeful obstruction.


You mean they could've accidentally hit the delete key a few hundred times?
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Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 12:38pm
 
Small business and unions tend to not have the dame level of IT expertise as large corporations. Even in a large corporation it is not unusual to ask employees to manage the size of their email due to storage limitations, in my last position it tended to happen about twice a year.

For a union paying for additional storage could be difficult.
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 12:41pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:40am:
Kytro wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:09am:
The funny thing is this could just as easily be technical incompetence as it could be purposeful obstruction.


You mean they could've accidentally hit the delete key a few hundred times?



or one delete all button.
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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 2:59pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:55am:
UNION officials spent three days deleting emails despite a notice from the royal commission ordering it to hand over all documents on its dealings with businessman George Alex. 
 
The Royal Commission into Union Corruption ordered the Construction Forestry Mining and Engineering Union to hand over any documents relating to Mr Alex’s security and scaffolding companies.

But Kylie Wray, NSW branch general manager, said the union suddenly found in June, less than a month after receiving the notice, that it was not receiving any email because of a “disk space error”.

The hearing heard senior union officials faced up to two years’ jail over the intimidation of industry inspectors.

Counsel assisting the commission Jeremy Stoljar warned yesterday of stiff penalties if gross obstruction were proven.

Ms Wray had said the email system was full and had not been backed up. She told staff to delete emails.

“We are just days away from the royal commission kicking off and there is a LOT going on, we need everyone to make this a priority please,” she told staff — in an email.

Mr Stoljar asked: “Didn’t you consider getting an external storage device and loading some emails on to that?”


Ms Wray said it had not occurred to her — despite an email from her boss suggesting it three minutes later — and confirmed a team of nine spent at least three days purging the union’s email system.

Mr Stoljar suggested it was a deliberate attempt to destroy evidence.

“You wished to delete emails which would otherwise be produced to the commission in answer to notices to produce: Is that right?” he said.

“Absolutely not,” Ms Wray replied.

The commission was seeking documents relating to Enterprise Bargaining Agreements between Mr Alex’s companies and the union.

In the commission the previous day Mr Stoljar described Mr Alex as “a person with well-publicised connections with organised crime”.

The commission heard that directors of Mr Alex’s companies withdrew $2500 cash in “union fees” every week.

And it also heard from several witnesses that CFMEU officials including NSW secretary Brian Parker, bikies and debt collectors had been seen at Mr George’s house.

Yesterday Ms Wray said she personally went through and deleted all of Mr Parker’s emails — but she claimed that there were no emails from Mr Alex in his inbox.

The inquiry continues.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/cfmeu-purged-its-emails-union-corrupti...


This article is deceptive and even fraudulent.  I watched that woman give evidence.

Her Office had already satisfied a Commission summons for documents.  The attack by Counsel Assisting the Commission (Mr Stoljar) was that he regarded it as suspicious that this email clear out occurred when, he suggested, it was possible the Commission might seek other documents by way of summons.

He was rightly pulled up by Mr Agius QC for the CFMEU who correctly pointed out that people are not required to gaze into crystal balls and read tea leaves (my words ~ not his) before dealing with a systems 'crash.'  They had satisfied the only summons they had been given and had every right to get on with the normal day to day business of running a busy office which can face all sorts of IT issues as a routine matter.

Her comment about the Commission being a couple of days away was contextually one of...."heck, our external email server is chockers......we better clear it in the event the Commission wants to talk to us." (Again ~ my words.)
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Reply #7 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 3:03pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:38am:
Kytro wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 6:09am:
The funny thing is this could just as easily be technical incompetence as it could be purposeful obstruction.




a coincidence you mean.. Grin Grin Grin

the cfmeu reminds me of the good old days of the painters and dockers,, Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Yep, those were the days:


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