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Monty Python reunion crashes and burns.
Jul 2nd, 2014 at 9:05pm
 
" Monty Python Live (mostly) opened a ten-night run in London last night.
    Three decades since they last appeared on stage, the comedians were back.
    John Cleese, Michael Palin, Eric Idle, Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones appeared.
    They performed old comedy favourites including the dead parrot sketch.
   
    But public reaction to the money-raising reunion was mixed to say the least.

    One Twitter user wrote: 'Monty Python looked tired, pretty rubbish'.
    Another said: 'Bunch of skint old men trying to make a few quid.  #bored'.
    Mail's Quentin Letts was also unimpressed, calling them 'dodgy tribute band'\"


I could have told them their brand of humour is way past its Use By date.

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Okay, I'll confess I never found them that funny in the first place. 'Silly' doesn't translate as 'funny' for me.
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Reply #1 - Jul 2nd, 2014 at 10:54pm
 
I did find Life of Brian funny...but like any humour it dates I mean I remember the Goons... and I never did get them...I think you needed a weird mind to understand them... same with   Larry Curly and Moe..

its all the same after a while..

theres not much humour around now that I care for..

stand up comedians just use bad language and I dont laugh at that at all..but people rave about them..
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 12:51am
 
cods wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 10:54pm:
I did find Life of Brian funny...but like any humour it dates I mean I remember the Goons... and I never did get them...I think you needed a weird mind to understand them... same with   Larry Curly and Moe..

its all the same after a while..

theres not much humour around now that I care for..

stand up comedians just use bad language and I dont laugh at that at all..but people rave about them..


I think it has a lot to do with the fact that so much comedy is based on the
culture, fashion, social mores and so on, of that particular era.

Once those are gone or are no longer relevant, the comedy loses a lot of its
point and its 'bite'.

Agree about the bad language. Sparingly used, it can be hilarious, but too
much of it takes away more than it adds.
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am
 
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:10am
 
the movies were funny... damn funny!! Classics, to be sure!
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:26am
 
the movies were great.
The TV show was revolutionary

I had a book of the goon show scripts. they were amazing.
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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:27am
 
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am:
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.



at least we got a good belly laugh out of them when at their height like most jokes they are never as funny the second time around...

I cannot think of any funny show that really makes me fall about laughing...my daughter love Mrs Browns Boys I hate it.... its all low brow bad taste to me...

as for American humour.. it escapes me all the time..
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:24am
 
cods wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:27am:
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am:
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.



at least we got a good belly laugh out of them when at their height like most jokes they are never as funny the second time around...

I cannot think of any funny show that really makes me fall about laughing...my daughter love Mrs Browns Boys I hate it.... its all low brow bad taste to me...

as for American humour.. it escapes me all the time..


So true, so true.
When the guy who "invented" laugh tracks died a while back I saw a report showing clips of a couple of American popular "comedies" without the canned laughter, it highlighted just how puerile and boring they actually were, not that that required proving, not for anyone with more than 11 functioning braincells anyway.
Even stand-up comedians these days seem to have been dumbed-down, there's so little actual wit they leave me cold.
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Reply #8 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:41am
 
"Monty Python reunion crashes and burns."

No surprises there.

Most superannuation tours are crap, and this one was starting to smell from the day it was announced.

I love Python, bit I wouldn't go see this reunion show if you paid me.
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:32am
 
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:24am:
cods wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:27am:
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am:
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.



at least we got a good belly laugh out of them when at their height like most jokes they are never as funny the second time around...

I cannot think of any funny show that really makes me fall about laughing...my daughter love Mrs Browns Boys I hate it.... its all low brow bad taste to me...

as for American humour.. it escapes me all the time..


So true, so true.
When the guy who "invented" laugh tracks died a while back I saw a report showing clips of a couple of American popular "comedies" without the canned laughter, it highlighted just how puerile and boring they actually were, not that that required proving, not for anyone with more than 11 functioning braincells anyway.
Even stand-up comedians these days seem to have been dumbed-down, there's so little actual wit they leave me cold.


aaaaaaauuuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhh, hard to imagine a US comedy without the canned laughter.
They are unwatchable WITH the canned laughter.

Seinfield was ok, predictable and safe, but ok.

Many of the standup comedians are just abusive.
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Reply #10 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:00am
 
Kat wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 12:51am:
Agree about the bad language. Sparingly used, it can be hilarious, but too
much of it takes away more than it adds.


Well said.

I've seen really good acts ... clever ... funny ... well thought out ... ruined because he or she felt obliged to toss in the 'f'-word as a sort of 'bonus'.
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Reply #11 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:18am
 
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am:
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.


What's so pathetic is that rather than admitting to themselves that they've become obsolete with the passing of time, they pretend they're still hot-to-trot and as commercial as ever.

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Reply #12 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:47am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:00am:
Kat wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 12:51am:
Agree about the bad language. Sparingly used, it can be hilarious, but too
much of it takes away more than it adds.


Well said.

I've seen really good acts ... clever ... funny ... well thought out ... ruined because he or she felt obliged to toss in the 'f'-word as a sort of 'bonus'.


I suspect Billy Connolly could be an exception to that rule?
Depends on your tastes though I suppose.
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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:15pm
 
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:47am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:00am:
Kat wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 12:51am:
Agree about the bad language. Sparingly used, it can be hilarious, but too
much of it takes away more than it adds.


Well said.

I've seen really good acts ... clever ... funny ... well thought out ... ruined because he or she felt obliged to toss in the 'f'-word as a sort of 'bonus'.


I suspect Billy Connolly could be an exception to that rule?
Depends on your tastes though I suppose.


I like Billy Connolly, but I always thought he made a complete ass of himself stalking the stage with repeated and totally unnecessary use of the 'f'-word (which I hate being said in the presence of females).
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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:29pm
 
I could have told them their brand of humour is way past its Use By date.

couldn't agree more. I mentioned before that the particular humour they came out of - Cambridge theatre - just didn't wear well. Thus, Pete & Dud, Sorry I'll Read That Again and some others just don't hack it anymore.
On the other hand, a lot of old Brit sitcoms remain funny -  Last of the Summer Wine of course, in fact anything written by Roy Clarke.
Also the Goon Show is still funny after 70 years. The humour in Dickens novels is still funny.
What makes for lasting humour is hard to say.
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Reply #15 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
Last of the Summer Wine is the most excruciatingly unfunny English comedy I've ever seen.
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Reply #16 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:37pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:29pm:
I could have told them their brand of humour is way past its Use By date.

couldn't agree more. I mentioned before that the particular humour they came out of - Cambridge theatre - just didn't wear well. Thus, Pete & Dud, Sorry I'll Read That Again and some others just don't hack it anymore.
On the other hand, a lot of old Brit sitcoms remain funny -  Last of the Summer Wine of course, in fact anything written by Roy Clarke.
Also the Goon Show is still funny after 70 years. The humour in Dickens novels is still funny.
What makes for lasting humour is hard to say.


Mate, if you could define that you'd be on a hiding to nothing to be the worlds first sqillionaire!  Grin
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 2:30pm:
Last of the Summer Wine is the most excruciatingly unfunny English comedy I've ever seen.


It's an acquired taste. US sitcoms work for a lot of people, they don't for me (Seinfeld excepted)
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Notice I said English comedy. I love English comedy, I just don't count Last of the Summer Wine as one. Mrs Browns Boys is about as unfunny.

Most US comedies I don't like, however two recent ones which are very funny are Arrested Development and Archer.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:41am:
"Monty Python reunion crashes and burns."

No surprises there.

Most superannuation tours are crap, and this one was starting to smell from the day it was announced.

I love Python, bit I wouldn't go see this reunion show if you paid me.


I call them nostalgia tours... bands seem to reform and tour on the nostalgia circuit 10, 20, 30 years after they had their time in the spotlight.

Personally, I think they're all crap. You see people past their prime who have lost that certain something (ummm.. perhaps it's just "youth") and there's absolutely no sense of joy de vivre in regards to what they're doing.

You'll usually get a better show and more accurate portrayal of what they were like seeing a tribute act than seeing the originals as old codgers quite obviously just going through the motions for that paycheque at the end.

See 'em first time around or buy the DVD. Avoid the disappointment.
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Reply #20 - Jul 6th, 2014 at 11:16am
 
austranger wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 1:14am:
Yeah, they're basically out of context, anachronistic, they outlived their relevance, not to mention that being trail-blazers they've been copied to death and audiences are well jaded now.
Sad but true.


In their time they were edgy and risque. I remember watching their TV show in the 70s when it was on at an adult time and rated AO. I was bemused when recently the ABC showed the same TV program at 6-30pm rated G. It shows how much our society has changed.

Some of their sketches have become part of popular culture. The parrot sketch, the four Yorkshiremen (which still makes me laugh to this day) and the Black Knight in the Holy Grail (ditto).

The reason we call unsolicited emails "spam" is also the result of a Monty Python sketch.

They must be in their 60s and 70s now so it is no surprise that they have lost their comedic edge.
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Reply #21 - Jul 6th, 2014 at 1:45pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:33pm:
I call them nostalgia tours... bands seem to reform and tour on the nostalgia circuit 10, 20, 30 years after they had their time in the spotlight.


These are 'Taxation Time' tours, and also to finance their huge ongoing maintenance bills to their one-time groupie followers who bore their children as Single Mothers.

And then there are the drug debts to pay off.


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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:18pm:
Notice I said English comedy. I love English comedy, I just don't count Last of the Summer Wine as one. Mrs Browns Boys is about as unfunny.

Most US comedies I don't like, however two recent ones which are very funny are Arrested Development and Archer.



The Brits were good in their day, but US comedy is the best  these days:

Arrested Development
Seinfeld
Parks and Recreation
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Community
Jon Stewart
Bill Hicks
Louis C.K.
etc.
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Reply #23 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:18pm:
Notice I said English comedy. I love English comedy, I just don't count Last of the Summer Wine as one. Mrs Browns Boys is about as unfunny.

Most US comedies I don't like, however two recent ones which are very funny are Arrested Development and Archer.



The Brits were good in their day, but US comedy is the best  these days:

Arrested Development
Seinfeld
Parks and Recreation
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Community
Jon Stewart
Bill Hicks
Louis C.K.
etc.



REALLY....I find American humour childish immature...obvious...annoying...the 70s show OMG...Big Bang...ugh...as for the mostly black shows.. UGH again...Brits have lost the plot lately I agree Mrs Browns Boys.. omg...awful...

its really hard to get a really good laugh anymore...pretty sad a bit like life...
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Reply #24 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:51pm
 
Now that the Gillard government has faded into history I'm finding it hard to laugh at anything anymore.

There's just no more comedy around that's worth sitting through the commercials.

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Reply #25 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:56pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:18pm:
Notice I said English comedy. I love English comedy, I just don't count Last of the Summer Wine as one. Mrs Browns Boys is about as unfunny.

Most US comedies I don't like, however two recent ones which are very funny are Arrested Development and Archer.



The Brits were good in their day, but US comedy is the best  these days:

Arrested Development
Seinfeld
Parks and Recreation
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Community
Jon Stewart
Bill Hicks
Louis C.K.
30 Rock
etc.



REALLY....I find American humour childish immature...obvious...annoying ...



Yes, I do love it so.

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Reply #26 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 3:00pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:51pm:
Now that the Gillard government has faded into history I'm finding it hard to laugh at anything anymore.

There's just no more comedy around that's worth sitting through the commercials.




http://www.abc.net.au/tv/theroast/about/

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2014/06/troy-kinne-comedy-coming-to-7mate.html

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/shaun-micallefs-mad-as-hell/

http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-bolt-report
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Reply #27 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 7:58pm
 
I'll check those out, Greg ~ but I'm not hopeful.

The only reason those 'comedians' are doing a show under the patronage of the Sheltered Workshop we-know-and-love hate as the 'ABC' is because they're not good enough to be a profitable concern on the commercial channels.

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Reply #28 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 3:32am
 
cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2014 at 2:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 3:18pm:
Notice I said English comedy. I love English comedy, I just don't count Last of the Summer Wine as one. Mrs Browns Boys is about as unfunny.

Most US comedies I don't like, however two recent ones which are very funny are Arrested Development and Archer.



The Brits were good in their day, but US comedy is the best  these days:

Arrested Development
Seinfeld
Parks and Recreation
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Community
Jon Stewart
Bill Hicks
Louis C.K.
etc.



REALLY....I find American humour childish immature...obvious...annoying...the 70s show OMG...
Big Bang...
ugh...as for the mostly black shows.. UGH again...Brits have lost the plot lately I agree Mrs Browns Boys.. omg...awful...

its really hard to get a really good laugh anymore...pretty sad a bit like life...



Smiley As I wend my way through this thread, I am feeling like a low brow, secretly reading the tastes of the more sophisticated members. I've enjoyed plenty of American comedies. Smiley

I think Big Bang Theory is one of the cleverest comedy shows I have ever seen.
Every character is just exquisite and whoever wrote the script is familiar with aspergers syndrome, for sure. I just laugh and laugh, as it is so true to type, though carried to the next level. Grin
The show is an art form.

I used to love Faulty Towers back in the day,  and I still think of the episodes as classics and very funny. But even they have dated. I am not sure they would even make the screen these days, they are so politically incorrect.

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Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 10th, 2014 at 7:58pm:
I'll check those out, Greg ~ but I'm not hopeful.

The only reason those 'comedians' are doing a show under the patronage of the Sheltered Workshop we-know-and-love hate as the 'ABC' is because they're not good enough to be a profitable concern on the commercial channels.




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